Crawford vs Canelo Face OFF

Its a joke because its the SMW champ against the WW champ. Especially off the back of him beating the LMW champ which was also a joke.

But like i said im a sucker for hype.

 

Everyone is taller than canelo though. Most of his recent opponents are considerably heavier than him as well.

 

Crawford walks around at around 170-180lbs, he isn't much smaller than Canelo. It's just that he had better genetics for a weight cut than Canelo and could trim down for a longer period of time.

Crawford won't look much different on fight night than he did against Madrimov or even Spence where he was rehydrated to 170lbs+ on fight night.

 

Youre wrong on pretty much every account. Bud is moving up 3 weight classes. He has chosen to move up in SIZE in addition to WEIGHT. That will hurt him badly in this matchup and it was a mistake.

Manny famously came in at 144 to fight DLH at 147 - thats how its done. The Jermell Charlo method, the one Bud is using, does NOT work. Weight classes exist for a reason.

Canelo is NOT DLH of ~2007. Yes, he does throw a lot less punches but hes also typically fighting guys 20-30 lbs heavier than himself. We could see a much smaller Canelo whose prioritized speed and output himself and he BLITZES Bud inside 6 rounds. Even the 1 punch at a time Canelo is going to walk Bud into a counter.

I love Bud and have stood tall when being clowned after saying Bud beats Floyd at 147 - and I STILL stand on that.

You didnt answer my question. What is a "niggly voice"?

 

That doesnt really matter. At all. Canelo been fighting at 168 for 4-5 years now, even ventured to 175 twice. He can take those punches, he can hurt those people.

Why is anyone mentioning height or reach? Canelo is ALWAYS the smaller, shorter fighter - ALWAYS. That means NOTHING.

Bud's power was completely nonexistent against Madrimov. Admittedly, Madrimov and Canelo fight nothing alike. But I worry that Canelo wont respect Bud's power. At all.

Jermell was also taller and longer...hell he was maybe even heavier on fight night. That nonsense means NOTHING.

Bud is used to fighting at 147. He's put on too much muscle mass in too short a time period. Canelo maybe even trained to have better stamina and be faster...and maybe not do his usual 1 punch-at-a-time style. Canelo trains that way because his opponents are much larger than himself - Bud isnt though.

 

Neither you nor I are wrong. The fight is yet to happen therefore theres no absolute truth yet.

If Crawford isnt big enough on the night you're right, if he is, I'm right, but until then neither of us can claim it.

You know the metaphor of an angel an devil on your shoulders?

 

Bud really isn't bulking up. He's just not cutting down as much. Many of his fights, he was at 160+ on fight night. So the bulk up isn't really 3 divisions. The rub is going to be, him not having a distinct weight and strength advantage. If he can handle that, then his skills could take him to victory.

 

It's the speed at which Crawford is moving that's the problem. You can't have one fight at 147, 12 months later have one fight at 154, and then 12 months later skip 160 altogether and fight the best 168 fighter on the planet.

"Weight classes exist for a reason" is a statement that's been around for 100+ years, but people suddenly believe it doesn't apply to Crawford? I don't get it. Another thing I'll mention is this belief that Crawford has superior ring IQ to Canelo. Canelo fought 24 close rounds against Golovkin, beat Danny Jacobs, and figured out Kovalev up at 175. Who has Crawford figured out anywhere near that level? His best win is Spence, who was a crude one-dimensional pressure fighter. Madrimov was hitting him with right hands all night, and he's a level below the likes of Golovkin and Kovalev, not to mention much smaller.

There didn't look like there was much between Canelo and Khan either until they got in the ring. I'm rooting for Crawford, but if I were a betting man (which I am not), I'd be betting the house on Canelo. I'm still looking forward to it, though, but this is just a cash-out fight for Bud.

 

He IS bulking up. Hes not draining to 147 and is putting on additional muscle.

You are confusing fight night weight with weigh ins, goofball

 

So clarify. If Bud cuts all the way to 147 and rehydrates to 168 on fight night, wouldn't it be easier to not cut and just weigh in at 168-170 for Canelo?
I ask this because it's my understanding that guys will cut or pull all the water out of the bodies to make weight, then rehydrate in between the official weigh in and the fight. My logic is that Bud would spare himself that dreadful weight cut.

 

What do you think Spence was doing? Or Porter? Or Charlos? Or Vergil Ortiz? Or Maidana? Or Hatton? Or Donaire? Or...like 95% of boxers every match? Everyone cuts as much weight as they can, Crawford is not unique in that department. There are far less fighters who fight at higher weights because they can and neither Crawford nor Canelo are those fighters.

Canelo is small at 175 but he's a medium-sized SMW. By contrast, Bud will be a small SMW. His muscles may look bigger but his punches were effective at 147, not 168, and they looked about average at 154. Canelo meanwhile has above average power at 168 (Bivol rated Canelos power above "old" Beterbiev even) but his workrate is lower. Canelo can absorb punches from 175 pounders. Bud's power was so-so at 154 and the way we know that is Vergil hurt Madrimov but Bud couldnt. Somehow people think because Bud is lifting some weights and carrying a gut that he'll hurt Canelo at 168 - thats not boxing logic, that's casual logic. Otherwise every powerlifter would be a boxing phenom.

Canelo is going to beat Crawford. I dont exactly know how but Bud has very little chance. Just ask:

Kell Brook
Mikey Garcia
Connor Benn
Jermell Charlo

Its an L for Bud and I'm a Bud Stan

 

Why are you arguing a non issue? I am only speaking on the fight night weight of Crawford. My guess is, he will not be much heavier fight night than he was when he fought at 147. Therefore the extra weight should not be an issue. I also stated that it will come down to how he handles Canelo's size and power. I also said he would not stop Canelo. I fully understand what Crawford is up against.

 

Bud weighin 160ish on fight night is like every other WW. 170ish is like every other JMW and 180ish for every other MW. Canelo will be about 180 against Bud on fight night.

The lower Bud's weigh-in weight the better he will do. If he goes in like Jermell, trying to be as powerful as Canelo, he will lose.

 

This is the exact opposite of my prediction. My bet is that people will absolutely shocked…at how slow Crawford is on fight night. In fact, besides footwork, I believe Canelo’s hand speed will be noticeably faster. My view is that weight moves weight. A bigger Crawford is a slower Crawford. Which will throw off everything like speed and timing