Crawford vs De La Hoya @140

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  1. JL Fighter

    JL Fighter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oscar. Just too strong. After he KO's Crawford, Bud will be wearing fishnets.
     
  2. STEPHEN1990

    STEPHEN1990 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    the crawford hype is over the top he hasnt fought anyone close to elite and a shot to **** pac will not count when it happens am not buying into it

    his best wins
    gamboa
    beltran
    postal
    daiz
    indongo

    prime oscar points or late stoppage
     
  3. RacingBeat

    RacingBeat Casual lives matter Full Member

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    If we're going back to the 90s then let's see Bud get through El Feroz first
     
  4. Radrook

    Radrook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Impressive velocity!

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    He was trained by Floyd Mayweather Senior for a time.
    Never saw him celebrate more than when he beat Big Mouth Mayorga.

    But that's understandable seeing how Mayorga had seriously insulted him.
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  5. Todd498

    Todd498 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Oscar knocks him out. Better in pretty much every category.
     
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  6. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Big Crawford fan, he's on the right path and he's not a snooze fest like Ward or Mayweather. But he's not on that level yet, DLH was a great fighter himself. Time will tell. But haven't been excited for an American fighter for awhile.
     
  7. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Oscar, a gold medalist..............
     
  8. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Crawford would win. Watch De La Hoya vs Mosley 1 to see how the fight would look.
     
  9. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Exactly, no matter the feelings people have of
    Oscar the prima donna, he was an absolute animal
    in the smaller division, an animal ATG caliber.

    Oscar is one of the best guys ever at parrying shots
    with his gloves not to mention having one of the sharpest
    hooks and best jabs ever (converted southpaw).
    Crawford in this era is the business but that Oscar can be
    set in any era in history and be considered a top guy.
     
  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Amateur record

    Oscar 223-5 Olympic gold medaiist

    Crawford's 70-12

    Opponent's win loss ratio

    Oscar 45 fights 1409 wins-121 loses

    Crawford 32 fights 514-205

    Number of world champions fought

    Oscar 24 (18-6)

    Crawford 4 (4-0)

    Number of times fought on the road

    Oscar 0

    Crawford 1

    Oscar's best wins

    Quartey 34-0-1
    Whitaker 41-1-0
    Fernando Vargas 22-1-0
    Hector Camacho 63-3-1
    Miguel Angel Gonzalez 41-0
    Julio Cesar Chavez 96-1-1 (100-2-2 for the rematch)
    Genaro Hernadez 32-0-1
    Rafael Ruelas 43-1
    Ricardo Mayorga 27-5-1
    Arturo Gatti 33-4-0
    Felix Sturm 20-0-0
    Jesse James Leija 30-1-2
    Javier Castillejo 51-4-0
    Luis Ramon Campas 80-5-0
    Wilfredo Rivera 27-2-1
    Oba Carr 48-2-1
    John John Molina 36-3
    Steve Forbes 33-5-0
    Jimmi Bredahl 16-0
    Derrell Coley 34-1-2
    Jorge Paez 53-6-4
    Troy Dorsey 12-7-4
    David Kamau 28-1-0
    Darryl Tyson 47-8-1
    Patrick Charpentier 27-4-1
    Carl Griffith 28-3-2
    John Avila 23-3
    Giorgio Campanella 20-0
    Jeff Mayweather 23-2-2

    Lost against

    Manny Pacquiao 47-3-2
    Floyd Mayweather 37-0
    Bernard Hopkins 44-2-1
    Felix Trinidad 35-0
    Shane Mosley 34-0 (38-2 rematch)

    Beat Trinidad and Mosley in the rematch IMO and the opinion of most. Shane was juiced on all manner of PEDs in that fight too and Oscar was past his best against Pacquiao, Floyd and B-Hop. To balance that out, you can make the argument that he should of lost to Sturm and some feel he lost against Quartey and Whitaker too.

    Crawford's best wins

    Postol 28-0
    Diaz 19-1
    Indongo 22-0
    Beltran 29-6-1
    Gamboa 23-0
    Burns 36-2-1
    Dulorme 22-1
    Molina 29-6
    Klimov 16-0
    Lundy 26-5-1
    Jean 29-1
    Presscott 26-4
    Sanabria 34-1-1

    Burns is one of Crawford's best wins but let's not forget that in his fight prior to facing Crawford he should've lost to Beltran and in his fight prior to that he was getting schooled by Jose A Gonzalez and looked well on his way to losing before Gonzalez had to pull out with a wrist injury. Gonzalez was ahead 87-84 on all three of the judge's score cards. And in his fight after losing to Crawford, Burns lost to Zlaticanin. So if not for good fortune and corruption Burns very easily could've been on a 0-4 slump at that time.

    A fight report of Burns vs Gonzalez

    'For most of the nine rounds that their fight lasted, lightweight titleholder Ricky Burns was utterly outclassed by the largely unknown Jose Gonzalez. It was a shocking scene to see Gonzalez, who was the mandatory challenger for reasons that will remain a mystery -- because it sure had nothing to do with his barren résumé -- toying with Burns.

    Gonzalez, who had never fought anyone of remote consequence and was fighting outside of his Puerto Rican home for the first time, had traveled to the lion's den of Glasgow, Scotland, where Burns is a hero, and he took the hero to school Saturday at Emirates Arena.

    Burns' title was clearly slipping away -- just listen to the crowd grow quieter and quieter, round after round -- when, suddenly, Gonzalez simply quit on his stool after the ninth round.

    The British television commentators, who also had Burns way behind, said it might have been a hand injury. Whatever it was, that's the sort of pain you sign up for when you become a prizefighter. If you want to be a champion, it goes with the territory. Gonzalez (22-1, 17 KOs) couldn't take it, did not have what it takes to be a champion and quit. Poof. Just like that, he gave up the opportunity of a lifetime to win a world title.

    But for most of the nine rounds, Gonzalez befuddled an ineffective Burns (36-2, 11 KOs), who was as lucky to keep his title (in his third defense) as anyone is to hit the lottery. This fight wasn't so much about Burns winning it as it was about Gonzalez losing.

    Burns, the heavy favorite, showed very little and had me thinking he should be thankful he (and former promoter Frank Warren) turned down multiple overtures from fellow titleholder Adrien Broner. I always thought Broner would manhandle Burns. After seeing Burns against Gonzalez, I'm sure of it.

    By the third round, Burns was bleeding from the nose. He was being easily beaten to the punch as Gonzalez showed a really nice variety of punches -- uppercuts, body shots and right hands. He didn't even really use his best punch, the left hook, much.

    Gonzalez had big fifth and sixth rounds, backing Burns into the ropes and hurting him with repeated blows. At this point in the fight, it seemed not really a matter of whether Gonzalez would stop him, just when. But I will give Burns a bit of credit here. He is experienced and has heart and obviously knew he was trailing. He let it all hang out in the seventh round, which will go down as a round of the year candidate.

    They went toe to toe. They were both hurt and they were both in trouble at different times. It was a blistering round, and it clearly took more out of Gonzalez than Burns.

    "He caught me with a few good shots, and I just decided to stand my ground and trade back with him. That's all I could do," Burns said after the fight about Round 7.

    Burns mounted a comeback in the eighth and ninth rounds, his best of the fight, as Gonzalez, perhaps his hand already hurt, looked dead tired and did not do very much. Still, Burns was in a deep hole when the ninth ended. And then, out of nowhere, Gonzalez quit, giving Burns the improbable victory.

    Eddie Hearn, the Matchroom Sport promoter who signed Burns before this fight after he dumped Warren, seemed relieved Burns had pulled this victory out of the fire.

    "Unbelievable courage," he said of Burns' ability to hang in there despite a very tough night.

    Then Hearn said they would be back in Scotland for Burns' next title defense in September -- a title he is very, very lucky to still call his own.'

    And many feel Burns lost against Kiryl Relikh in his fight directly before Indongo relieved him of his title too.

    Crawford is an excellent fighter and he looks destined for greatness but as of now it's not even close.

    *if I've made any statistical errors it wasn't intentional. It's a real eye killer doing this*
     
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