Crazy Boxing Myths

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Ali4life, Feb 19, 2012.


  1. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    :D

    The sad thing is, i have even heard some so called "boxing experts" think of him that way...Being compared to the likes of Hatton. :!::-(
     
  2. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah..I've heard of that comparison..it's pitiful....and almost painful too.:-((
     
  3. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    I read a fantastic article sometime between the Bruno and Douglas fights. The article laid out some of his recent events (some little known and insider stuff, and i believe they held some back) and pointed out he was off the rails and that his career and performances were in jeopardy. They may as well have been looking into a crystal ball. Whatever the circumstances Tyson was a long long way from the fighter who had beaten the likes of Berbick and Thomas etc. His peak period was always going to burn super bright and last just a short time.

    I believe that Lewis and Holyfield would have always beat him due to various reasons, but the guy was definitely not running on all cylinders vs Douglas and beyond.

    He and Vitali would have entered the ring on an almost even keel at that time, yes. Lewis had slipped a great deal.

    Lewis could well have been given the opportunity to fight on in one of those. Who knows what may have happened, Lewis and his massive frame could well have entangled McCall in Hearns like fashion until he recovered or the round ended. Holmes vs Snipes careered into the turnbuckle after getting up, but he was rightfully given the opportunity to fight on. I've seen many many fighters as bad as Lewis was allowed to fight on, and many have won.

    Regardless of McCall's rematch form Lewis came back and beat every man that ever beat him. He had that inner mongrel, fire and self belief, make no mistake. He resume also includes one of the biggest hitting collections in history. He was often at his most deadly against the biggest hitters and he sought early dominance.

    I mean look at some of the names - Tua, Ruddock, Weaver (aged yes), Bruno, Morrison, Mercer, Goltoa, Holyfield, Tyson, Klit etc, etc. Put other greats against his overall opposition and they are going to be tested, and rest assured some will be sparked.
     
  4. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    John Wayne is Big Leggy :D
     
  5. boxingfanneato

    boxingfanneato what would MORALES do! Full Member

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    Dempsey deserved that lol. Anybody think buster got a long count against mike?
     
  6. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Absolutely. It was a travesty!
     
  7. Hands of Iron

    Hands of Iron #MSE Full Member

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    And you'd have every inclination and the objective perspective to believe that's the case. Now, I happen to believe the same in regards to Tyson/Holmes which seems to be much more disagreeable and it isnt born out of personal bias but rather Holmes' propensity for getting hit with right hands. Granted, his wheels wont go jelly in the same way and his punch resistance is stronger, Tyson is an ATG Finisher.

    I agree. Lewis was a vastly superior fighter at his peak and without doubt, more proven. I was greatly dissapointed with his decision to retire and it had absolutely nothing to do with the belief system that Vitali would beat him, but rather: How much better is Lewis going to be if he sheds the extra weight and comes prepared for War. A 37-year-old Lewis is a better fighter than most heavyweights could hope to ever be.

    Without a doubt. It's more of a what-actually-happened case. Surprisingly, he wasnt sparked by the fighters you'd figure he would be and that's likely due to knowing full well what he was up against and performing accordingly (with the exception of the gutsy Vitali performance)

    BTW, how did you score Lewis-Mercer? :D
     
  8. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    It still makes me cry myself to sleep at night! :|
     
  9. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    With Ali's chin, there is no way he can lose, except if Foreman had better stamina, which he didn't. The
     
  10. boxingfanneato

    boxingfanneato what would MORALES do! Full Member

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    Least im not the only one lol
     
  11. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    just as a point of interest, has there been a heavyweight champ thats been knocked down once,beat the count, and not been allowed to continue. I certainly cant think of 1. The champ always gets a chance
     
  12. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    what a nuthugging **** post .
    D red r additional myths . d green helps 2 explain y .
     
  13. Legend X

    Legend X Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    The referee has to draw the line somewhere. His job is to protect the fighter. If it is the champ's sacred right to continue, (and be put at more risk than the challenger?), then we might as well go back to Dempsey v Willard or Johansson v Patterson standards. It's okay saying "the champ always gets a chance" but maybe the referee gave Lewis the chance to live and fight another day. Rather than the chance to get his brain punched in. I know you are just raising the point, and I see both sides of the argument, but in this case Lewis looked totally gone
     
  14. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree the ref has to draw the line somewhere but ive still to see another case of this happening in over a hundred years of heavyweight championship fights
     
  15. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lewis?