Credit to Canelo for consistently fighting good opponents

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  1. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Stacking the deck would be fighting Maciej Sulecki, like Andrade and Charlo.

    Stacking the deck would be fighting David Lemieux after Billy Joe Saunders wiped the floor with him.

    Stacking the deck is NOT fighting TWO Light Heavyweight Champions, unifying the Super Middleweight division and fighting the World Middleweight Champion for the third time, next.

    Want to watch Canelo stack the deck?

    Watch Canelo fight Sulecki next instead of Golovkin.

    Forget rematches with Bivol or Golovkin, give old Erislandy Lara a rematch after that to finish off the year.

    Lara is a WBA middleweight beltholder. And Canelo can settle that old score. No need to fight Bivol or the actual WORLD Middleweight champion Golovkin again. A WBA 'regular' champ should be fine.

    Want to see him stack the deck? Watch Canelo start 2023 with a Cinco De Mayo fight giving David Lemieux "one last shot."

    If you thought Bivol and Kovalev and Golovkin are cherry picks. you simply aren't paying attention to who the other boxers in the sport are fighting.

    Canelo should just fight the guys all the other champs are fighting. The other champs aren't fighting each other, so why should he fight the other champs?

    People like you will accuse him of cherry picking either way.
     
  2. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've explained exactly the cherrypick and deck stacking around Canelo at 168. Go back and look at what I quoted and tell me how these aren't very precise cherrypicks.

    You're trying way to hard to convince yourself he doesnt stack the deck and cherrypick. Yes he does.
     
  3. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Everyone has read it. Nobody agrees with you because they weren't cherry picks.

    Fighting Sulecki next is a cherry pick. Fighting the World Middleweight Champion Golovkin next is not.

    Fighting David Lemieux at super middleweight was a cherry pick. Fighting all the super middleweight champions as well as Bivol and Kovalev for their light heavyweight titles was not.

    Dumbass.
     
  4. Silver

    Silver The Champ is Here Full Member

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    No doubt Canelo is the biggest cash cow in the sport so big fights will always be available. Still his resume pretty damn good
     
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  5. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    No denying, Canelo has the best resume of active fighters. He can thrive at 168, but he needs to stay away from Bivol at 175.
     
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  6. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He won't though. He'll walk through fire again at 175 not because it's a wise thing to do but because he has no fear and wants to prove people wrong who say he can't beat Bivol.
     
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  7. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    Canelo fights Champs G fights contenders
     
  8. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    There are a lot of things you can hate about Clenelo. No reason to make something up. He's definitely a guy who wants big fights and legacy instead of a 0 on his resume. I mean look at dudes like Andrade, Charlo or so. They're basically fighting bum after bum after bum. They're clowns. Clenelo at least is going for it and delivers excellent matchups over the last 4 years.
     
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  9. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What kind of stupid shite is this. I should have expected this from a Wilder fanboy.

    Kovalev was a sparring session. Even if you consider that a real fight. Obvious card stacking/cherrypick. You're an actual idiot if you think otherwise.

    Golovkin was 35 yo and was showing sides of slowing down.

    Bivol to some had looked poor in his last two outings at 175 following an 18 month lay off. He certainly didn't look as impressive as when he fought the likes of Pascal and Joe Smith Jr. Eddie Hearn is on record calling it a cherrypick. You are delusional or naive, or both if you think Canelo's team didn't see this as an opportunity as opposed to the daring to be great bullocks.
     
  10. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Canelo needs to find a way to negate Bivol's movement and jab. He is up against it. Bivol has size, better movement and speed over Canelo. Canelo only has power. It will be interesting to see the game plan canelo employs in the rematch.
     
  11. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So you've bashed Kovalev, Bivol and Golovkin for the thousandth time as we all roll our eyes.

    Now do Sulecki and Lemieux.

    Because those are the guys Charlo and Andrade and Benevidez are "tangling" with.

    I say let Canelo fight Sulecki and Lemieux next, and let Charlo and Andrade and Benevidez 'spar' and "cherrypick" Golovkin and Bivol.

    Since they're fighting the tough guys and Canelo is the guy taking the soft touches.

    Let Canelo do the heavy lifting against Sulecki and Lemieux for a while. :hang
     
  12. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Again what I quoted from myself :
    "Canelo at 168, as I've explained in a previous post, is all smokes and mirrors. Let say these 168 fighters came to win (they didn't, apart from BJS imo).

    Smith - looked poor after he robbed Ryder, Best W was a one armed shoulder Groves at the end of his career. Looked mediocre against a kickboxer. If this context wasn't enough he was given 4-5 week camp (struggled finding sparring partners) for the biggest fight of his career.

    BJS - natural 160lber. Hadn't fought world level in 3 years since Lemieux. Was essentially gifted a belt at stevenage by Shefat Isufi. Had looked pretty much meh in all his outings at 168lbs. Looked subpar against aged shot Murray after having layoff. BJS made it clear he needed more fights before fighting Canelo after Murray. Still went ahead and fought Canelo. Historically Billy has had on/off performances. When he was supposedly at his best, he looked poor (in the Akavov and Ryder fights at least) and had very close fights with Akavov, Ryder (both arguable lost), Andy Lee and even Chris Eubank. Despite all this valid important context, Billy managed to nick 4-5 rounds off the so called face of boxing in Canelo (many had Billy winning 5, even DAZN commentator Chris Mannix).

    Plant - discount Mayweather who isn't as slick as everyone makes him out to be. Many had him up or at least nip and tuck WITH Canelo on their scorecards. Plant has beaten really nobody of note (apart from Uzvategui a few years back) and although won clearly against Truax, looked mediocre to say the least"

    Many agree with this. I'd like to see exactly what parts of this very valid context is wrong. Because it isn't. And you don't have an argument. Canelo at 168 is OBVIOUS cherrypicking, timing and cards tacking.
    Yes, yes you are
     
  13. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Whee have I argued that Benavidez and Andrade have good resumes? Nowhere. Because I haven't. And they don't have good resumes. They have shite ones. So this somehow makes Canelo's blatant card stacking and cherrypicking OK does it?
     
  14. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Beating three super middleweight champions, fighting two light heavyweight champions and fighting the World Middleweight champion next ... is NOT cherrypicking, dumbass.

    Not on ANY planet.

    You're another one who would complain no matter who Alvarez fought. So Canelo should actually START cherrypicking.

    Start with middleweight Sulecki. Maybe fight a welterweight like Kell Brook. Maybe give Lemieux or Dignum another title shot. Spend two years actually cherrypicking.

    In the meantime, maybe Andrade will Unify something.

    Forget Charlo.

    Hell, Jermall Charlo COULDN'T UNIFY HIMSELF. Even the other half of him is having a better career.

    Bring on Sulecki!!!!
     
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  15. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You really don't have anything up in that head of yours do you? You can cherrypick and cards tack against champions you complete and utter abortion. As I have detailed