I remember being like 3 or 4 and NOBODY could convince me that 1+1 didn't equal 11. You're kind of doing that right now.
Held paper belts wow more proof YDKSAB! Jones was a 2x undisputed LHW champ ,being lineal has proven to be less then being undisputed .All the belts he held he won them in the ring ..Let me guess you want to talk about DM 's unreasonable stripping again right Jones was a fighter of the decade dominated much better fighters than Joe ! Are you kidding me with this :rofl and Joe avoided nobody it's because he fought nobody and never dared to challenge himself unlike Jones after he beat Hopkins then went straight to Toney ! And that so called green Hopkins had one more pro fight than Jones and didn't lose another fight for another ten yrs but to you he was green And in my book great fighters fight great fighters and test their skills when they are at their best against the best Joe did no such thing ever but you want to start a thread about laughing at Jones ' career yet supporting by far one of the most ovverratted boxers ever ! Who's resume is more of the a joke than anyone else's..Really you want people to take you serious ..Yeah ok And as far as ducking Collins and Liles please tell me where would Merchant get this info from? " now 1995(as the last year joens was at supermiddle) ''Two 168 belt-holders, Steve Collins and Frankie Liles, have rejected big money offers to fight Roy Jones- Larry Merchant announces'' -- And that's why roy jones then moved up in weight Chris Eubank Eubank openely said he was afraid of Roy Jones said fighting him and Toney would be suicide also didn't want to fight him because he was never mandated to but that's Jones fault right atsch http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G0Erh4RKbHE Please go to 2:09 mark Of the four guys HBO wanted him to fight he beat 3 of them the only guy he didn't fight was Darius who said at one point he had no problem fighting in America but when attempts were made to finalize the fight calls were never returned but I know Jones ducked him to right :think Right Jones made no attempts to make fights yet fights were made but I'll let you tell it atsch Lennox Lewis So your faulting a guy who started at MW for not fight a dam near super HW ? GTFO Again your attempts at discrediting a fighter of Jones caliber falls short especially when you support a guy with such a fluffy record in Joe Calzaghe
How is DM being stripped of his titles any different than Lennox Lewis being stripped of the WBA, which was subsequently won by Holyfield - the man Lewis had just beaten (twice in a row, unofficially) - before ultimately winding up in the hands of Ruiz. Were either Holyfield or Ruiz ever truly considered anything even approaching the status of legitimate "champs" following Lewis' two bouts with Evander? :smoke
To go the distance with Holyfield 3 times with one of the all time greats how can you justify saying that, lasting the distance isn't an accident it takes some fighter to go through that with Holyfield, at least once, never mind 3 times. Woods was a tough fighter also who went the distance many times.
I don't know the circumstances were diffrent ..LL at least fought his mando's and recaptured his titles DM refused to fight his mandos and only cared about the WBO .LL. At least contested those rulings in court DM never did he was content in defending the WBO. Where he made the most money fighting nobodies after he beat HILL.
Gonzalez was the one that knocked off DM, correct? Woods beat him. Woods also beat Crawford Ashley, the dude who went life and death with ... Graciano Rocchigiani!!! Ashley lost a SD in Germany (with point deductions) to the GREAT Rocchigiani who everyone knows would have wiped the floor with RJJ!
Johnson too a tough fighter going the distance many times. Definitely both UD against Gonzalez, also a tough Mexican fighter.:good
KillSomething, I'm loving this debate, but each post you make, gets weaker and weaker. So you're now telling me that Jack O'Halloran was bitter? The man who moved him into his home, and who got the best out of him? He wasn't bitter, he was frustrated. Because he truly believed that Frankie would have beaten Roy. HBO backed Roy when he said Frankie was offered 7 figures. He'd never had a purse that big before. Jack said they had a great fight lined up, and Frankie was foolish to not accept it. Yet from all of that information, you're still telling other posters that Roy avoided him? You're embarrassing yourself. You're digging your heels into the ground, because you're not man enough to admit you were wrong. That's sad. You're also saying that whoever Roy didn't fight, was because he avoided them. Fine. We'll play your game. Dariusz Michalczewski, AVOIDED the following fighters: Clinton Woods Antonio Tarver Eric Harding Reggie Johnson Lou Del Valle Glen Kelly David Telesco Dariusz didn't fight them. So I guessed he must have ducked them, right? Now do you see how silly your posts are? They offered him $6m, and HBO said they'd give him a $3m comeback deal if he lost. But I guess that Roy, Brad Jacobs and HBO weren't been serious, right? It was all Roy's fault that the fight never happened. I guess Roy avoided the guy he'd already beaten? Nobody has said they all ducked him. atsch
KillSomething, I'd have guessed you were a bit younger than that. Kindly tell me what Dariusz did to make the fight with Roy? All he did was to get his promoter to make Roy offers to go to Germany, even though Roy had repeatedly said he didn't want to go. Dariusz claimed he'd be happy to go to America. Yet his promoter wouldn't even speak to HBO about going there. What evidence was there to suggest that Dariusz was happy to go to the U.S.? His resume supports the theory that he was more than happy to fight B and C class opposition in Germany for good money. It appeared that he was more than happy to fight his WBO mandatories. Kerry Davis did make efforts. His proposal of a double header was faxed over, because his calls were being ignored. Again, the reason why the fight didn't happen, is because neither guy was prepared to travel. But the difference was, Roy never wanted to go to Germany, whereas Dariusz claimed he had no problem going to the U.S. I've given you factual evidence as to why Roy didn't fight certain fighters. You haven't answered my question. Why are you dismissing actual evidence?