:-(Why does this killer guy put everyone that disagrees with his points on ignore. All his weak hyperbole to disgrace a great champion has been regulated to his warped opinion and proven non-objective non factual and seriously distorted. This guy carries roy voodoo dolls and hat pins I cringe and dont want to think about that.:-(
The more divisions you fight in, the more fighters there are available to fight. No doubt if Roy had've beaten Jirov at CW, you and KillSomething would be listing his CW contemporaries that he didn't fight. You'd never have been satisfied, unless Roy had fought the top 20 ranked fighters in every division he'd fought in. He'd have needed to have fought a 100 times to have satisfied you. Dariusz doesn't get the same criticism, because he only fought in ONE division. Do you understand?? Now ask yourself these questions: Why didn't Dariusz fight Roy? Why didn't he fight Lou Del Valle? Why didn't he fight Reggie Johnson? Why didn't he fight Eric Harding? Why didn't he fight Antonio Tarver? Let me know. Why did he fight Harmon, Gonzalez, Griffin and Hall, (twice) after Roy had beaten them EASILY? I'll own you and KillSomething, every day of the week and twice on Sunday. :good
Of course he didn't, because again, he only fought in ONE division. Roy fought in four divisions. Which means you're going to look at all of the MW's, SMW's, LHW's and HW's who he didn't fight, and then question why he didn't fight them. You can't do that with Dariusz, because he was content to just milk the WBO in Germany at LHW. There was never any question of him going up to CW or HW. How can saying that Roy literally missed all of his contemporaries, be a fact? You are truly an awful poster. atsch
DM fought Hill first and that is the only one that matters. DM unified the division and Roy came in and fought for the vacated trinkets (WBA,IBF) that meant absolutely nothing just how the WBA belt he fought for at Heavyweight was absolutely meaningless. Why would DM go and fight for his stripped belts after he already beat THE man for them? Makes ZERO sense. Do you understand what you just posted there? :huh
This thread should just end right here. TS is on the run and Loudon has dismantled every concievable argument as to why anyone should be "laughing at Roy Jones embareassing career". Game, set, match. :good
Rico Sp@ckerfora, ESB's most intelligent son. No, it's not at all strange why Roy now travels. atsch When Roy was the man, he was fighting on HBO, with all of the belts, and he was considered the best fighter on the planet. Which meant that he was in a position of power. He held the best hand at the poker table. He was the champ. If you want what the champ's got, you have to go to the champ. Roy did NOT need to travel when he was in his prime. The reason he's been travelling for the last five years, is because he's no longer in a position of power. He now has to fight on other people's terms. The tide has changed. The pendulum has swung the other way. He is the one who now has to make concessions. He is now having to travel, to move up the CW rankings, to try and earn himself a CW title shot before he retires. Do you understand? He never had to do this in the 90's, but now he does. His circumstances have now changed. If you can't figure that out, then find another thread and let the big boys play. Also, I have never said that the reason why Roy missed all those names, was due to them. :hi:
Oh Roy didn't miss all his contemporaries he did fight James Toney in 1994. He just missed all the others after that except Tarver who brutally KOed him. This has been laid out to you in statistical form. And you keep trying to tell us what Roy was 'thinking' or what he "would, shoulda, coulda" done :roflatsch
You're right, he had no reason to want to fight for ABC trinkets. He did however have every reason to want to fight the p4p best fighter in the world....one would think.
This post, is the equivilant of running up to a guy and kicking him hard in the nuts. But no doubt Rico will be oblivious to it all.
Yes a guy who was so worried about DM he tried to have HBO not mention his name on broadcasts. That is the extent of what a ducker Jones was. Merchant laughed in his face about that and continued to talk about DM and ask Roy when he was going to fight him.
He took the easy way out by going up to HW to fight Ruiz? Dariusz took the easy way out by staying in Germany to fight Roy's leftovers.
You're right, he wasnt the champ. Kind of like GGG isnt the champ today at middleweight, but he is the man to go through, the best fighter in the division. Same thing except jones was p4p number one. THAT is the difference.
Jones was such a ducker he has the better resume and historical standing. What does that say about DM?
DM beat Hill first. He was WBO, WBA, IBF and Lineal champion. Roy came in like a rat and fought for the left over meaningless belts and never fought THE champion just like he never fought Lennox Lewis instead fighting John Ruiz for the paper WBA belt. See, there was a pattern already in place for Roy doing such things at Light Heavyweight. These patterns are what we have been telling you about but you ignore it and just make excuses.