Criticizing Jones' resume

Loudon · Jan 15, 2015

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Dariusz fought in Roid's country as an amateur and was on the wrong end of a controversial decision, losing 3-0, in a fight where he clearly won at least one of the rounds and arguably two, and one Dariusz himself also clearly felt he'd done enough to win. The only time Roid fought in Dariusz's country he was the beneficiary of a gift SD in a fight ATG fight scribe, and many say TBE fight scribe, ESPN's Dan ''The Man'' Rafael scored to Roid's Polish opponent 97-92 and The Scene scored an even wider 98-91. So truth be told Dariusz had already ventured over to the USA and felt aggrieved about losing a fight he felt he'd won before he'd even joined the pro ranks. Roid couldn't muster the courage to fight in Dariusz's country until 2012, over seven years after Dariusz had hung up his gloves for good ie. when the coast was clear.

And what kind of role model is Roid for the youth of today? A steroid cheating blood sport enthusiast who actually allows his own pet dogs to rip each other to pieces for his own personal amusement? A supposedly good wholesome family man on the surface who is happily married with children but behind the facade is in fact a filthy sexual deviant on the sly who takes selfies of himself holding his penis and sends them to his sidepiece knowing full well that she's going to leak them to the press the next time he raises his hand to her again?

Meanwhile natural talent Dariusz, who didn't need to artificially supe himself up with illegal PEDs, has become a political activist who has no qualms about risking his own life championing causes like Gay Rights, same sex marriage, and fighting for those that don't have a voice in society like minorities and the underprivileged in a country which even today still has very anachronistic and backward attitudes regarding such things.

'WARSAW In conservative Poland, where even the greatest optimists have lost hope that well ever have *** ed in schools, to say nothing of same-*** unions, our latest progressive leader has come from an unlikely place: professional boxing. Dariusz Michalczewski, a world-famous pugilist who goes by the nickname Tiger, recently made headlines by announcing his support for one of the countrys most prominent gay rights groups, Shoulder to Shoulder on Equality L.G.B.T. and Friends, by appearing in a photograph with a sign reading, I am an ally of L.G.B.T. people, because I want to live in a country where my gay friends are not discriminated against.

Tiger, 46, is a former light heavyweight world champion who defended his title for almost 10 years. For a decade he dominated the prestigious World Boxing Organization, whose current champions include Vitali V. Klitschko and Manny Pacquiao. Now the boxer has decided to compete in the super heavyweight division that is, the fight for minority rights in Poland.

Mr. Michalczewski is both a surprising advocate for gay rights and the perfect choice for the role: He is white, hetero***ual, Catholic, rich, professionally successful and widely popular, and thus more likely to persuade conservatives than a liberal intellectual or politician. A typical young man from an economically depressed town that doesnt have a single movie theater but has five churches might not get a chance to read a progressive manifesto. The opinions of a legendary boxer who grew up under similar circumstances, meanwhile, might prove thought-provoking.

And Mr. Michalczewski has guts: The popular sportsman did not limit himself to one photograph. He supports not only *******uals right to enter into civil unions, but also their right to adopt children. In one TV appearance, he directly confronted right-wing politicians, by asking: What if your daughter were a lesbian? What if your son were gay? If it were my child, I would love him very much. And I would support him in everything, because hed be my child!

The key to Mr. Michalczewskis persuasiveness lies in feelings, not in arguments, or biography. You know what I like about him? a friend asked me after watching an interview with the boxer. His natural understanding of human relationships is really impressive. He is not an intellectual, but hes able to argue very effectively because hes honest and empathetic.

In this fight, it is empathy that leads Mr. Michalczewski forward, and draws people to him. It is what brought the boxer to the L.G.B.T. movement in the first place: He has long emphasized the role of those who helped him escape poverty and his sinister surroundings by engaging him in sports.

This is not Mr. Michalczewskis first radical step across boundaries. As a young, talented boxer, he escaped from Communist Poland to the West. In 1988, he did not return from a training camp in West Germany, prompting the Polish Boxing Union to disqualify him for life. He went on to box for Germany, and won the European Championship in 1991.

He became an international star, in and out of the ring. In the early 90s, he became friends with Mark Wahlberg, the actor and former rapper a.k.a. Marky Mark and appeared in one of the musicians videos.

At the time Mr. Michalczewski was mostly known for his aggressive boxing prowess; Mr. Wahlberg wrote a song about him called No Mercy. But as his boxing career drew to a close, Mr. Michalczewski began to show a different side. In 2003 he founded Equal Opportunity, a foundation that works to prevent delinquency among young people from disadvantaged backgrounds, taking them from the street to the gym. He soon expanded his activism to other social issues, including minority rights and, most controversially, gay rights.

Predictably, Mr. Michalczewskis support for same-*** unions has drawn the ire of cultural conservatives, who have assaulted his patriotism. But while its true that he donned the Polish colors only in 2002, he never considered his escape from gray and restrictive Poland to be treason and, perhaps because of his confidence in his own identity, the public tends to agree.

Indeed, it is in the failure of such attacks on Mr. Michalczewski that we can see his campaign really working. Given the choice between his dignified stand and the rude cowardice of his critics, many people more than one might expect in this very conservative country side with him.

After the nationalist owner of the beer company Ciechan made a series of crude comments about Mr. Michalczewskis mother, he found his beer boycotted across the country. Admittedly, the boycott was led by liberal activists, but the backlash still represents a step forward for Poland.

Tiger Michalczewski understands that his is just one voice, and that the country still has a long way to go to tolerance. But he also knows that Poland has struggled, and won, in the arena of human rights before. I am worried that two generations will have to die off and it will only be the third that will have a normal attitude toward gays and lesbians. I am very sorry for those who are at the barricades fighting for their rights, he said, because they probably wont succeed in their lifetimes. To me, their struggle is like the struggle against Communism.

For now, Poland remains a country where equality comes slowly. It will really take a world champion to change this state of affairs.
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Top post!

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I've got an enormous amount of respect for him, for those campaigns.

Let's hope he's influenced a lot of people.

I have a friend who's gay, and you could not wish to meet a nicer guy.

It's sad that the world is like it is.

If everyone just accepted everyone else, and we all helped each other, this world would truly be a beautiful place.

Much respect to Dariusz.

Loudon · Jan 15, 2015

Mind Reader said: ↑

Ruiz had iron chinned Holyfield almost out on his feet at one point. And James Toney actually stopped Holyfield, but Rico says he has no power either.
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Rico will put hate before logic.

Loudon · Jan 15, 2015

Rico Spadafora said: ↑

No, YOU are the clueless one as I just demonstrated with your lack of knowledge and asking me why DM wasn't fighting his contemporaries for his stolen belts and why trinket belts don't matter when there is a LEGIT champion in place already. :roflatsch
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See my other post.

I wasn't literally asking why he didn't fight them.

I was trying to show you how biased you are being in this debate

Rumsfeld · Jan 15, 2015

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But I do find it interesting that his biggest supporters sweep the positive test of a banned substance under the rug as if that didn't raise questions about the validity of all his accomplishments.
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Nobody?

:smoke

Loudon · Jan 15, 2015

Rico Spadafora said: ↑

Considering what I just had to explain to you a few posts ago you should be the one deleting your account and coming back when you know more about the sport.
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Mind Reader · Jan 15, 2015

Rumsfeld said: ↑

Nobody?

:smoke
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I have a friend from Pensacola... The Jones camp caught word that Hall was juicing and decided to even the playing field.

Rumsfeld · Jan 15, 2015

Mind Reader said: ↑

I have a friend from Pensacola... The Jones camp caught word that Hall was juicing and decided to even the playing field.
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So you're going with the 2 wrongs make a right argument?

MVC! · Jan 15, 2015

Why this thread even exists, we will never know.

If it was a thread titled

"Let's LAUGH at Ali's embarrassing career"

or

"Let's LAUGH at SRR/Fab 4's embarrassing careers"

The person who made the thread would be banned with haste.

But w/e it is what it is.

Mind Reader · Jan 15, 2015

Rumsfeld said: ↑

So you're going with the 2 wrongs make a right argument?
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Hey man, an eye for an eye.:deal

Loudon · Jan 15, 2015

Rico Spadafora said: ↑

Wlad travels and is about to fight in America for the 12th time
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Why do you think he had to fight in the U.S. when he was younger?

How many fights as he had in Germany?

Before he was the champ, he had to travel.

But now he has the power to decide where he fights.

Over the years, his circumstances have changed.

Roy didn't need to travel.

Tell me how many times Floyd has travelled in his 47 fights?

Loudon · Jan 15, 2015

Imperial1 said: ↑

op Dam Rico is getting his ass handed to him ..
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It ain't pretty.

Rumsfeld · Jan 15, 2015

Mind Reader said: ↑

Hey man, an eye for an eye.:deal
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Given the fact that steroids were rampant in sports during the late 90s, you concede there is a strong chance Roy was cheating all along? And that his accomplishments should, as such, all be viewed with even greater scrutiny.

Loudon · Jan 15, 2015

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''I am worried that two generations will have to die off and it will only be the third that will have a normal attitude toward gays and lesbians. I am very sorry for those who are at the barricades fighting for their rights,' he said, 'because they probably wont succeed in their lifetimes. To me, their struggle is like the struggle against Communism - and fighting''

--Dariusz ''The Tiger'' Michalczewski

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Your other post that elaborated more on the subject, is probably the best post I've ever read on here.

:good

Serge · Jan 15, 2015

Mind Reader said: ↑

Crying to the mods is for pu$$ies.:deal
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lol

Serge · Jan 15, 2015

Loudon said: ↑

Top post!

:good

I've got an enormous amount of respect for him, for those campaigns.

Let's hope he's influenced a lot of people.

I have a friend who's gay, and you could not wish to meet a nicer guy.

It's sad that the world is like it is.

If everyone just accepted everyone else, and we all helped each other, this world would truly be a beautiful place.

Much respect to Dariusz.
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:good

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