Criticizing Jones' resume

That's roy jones hater logic for you

 

And you're not?atsch

 

General Knob making a complete spack of himself in this thread.

Nunn was washed up by the time he was a mandatory. He got schooled by Rocchigiani, won a debatable decision over John Scully and hadn't done anything of consequence since losing to Liles lol: @ Nunn being robbed.)

 

No.

Why don't you try answering post 694.

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This thread has some great posters in it :good

 

For him to be wrong, he must make things up in a rapid tempo, and I'm not to believe that. But regardless of Roy Jones Jrs seemingly endless (and amusing) maneuvering, he did rack up wins against Bernard Hopkins, James Toney and Antonio Tarver. John Ruiz was never all that, but still a title holder at HW with a few decent wins (Golota, Rahman, Holyfield), so that win can't be overlooked either. Jones Jr never had any real business at HW anyway, because he was too small. Either he had to pick somone he could deal with stylewise, or he could get himself killed.

 

Imagine him fighting Lennox Lewis he would,have been murdered ..

 

Yeah, he would. Vitali Klitschko actually stated he wanted to fight Jones, now that's beeing a bully for sure ... Vitali has never had any issue beating up small guys for money, it's just a question if he can get the opportunity.

 

That would been a crime ..And Vitali would have had to been arrested

 

It's not about him being wrong, it's about how he views things.

On occasions, he's even argued against his own links that he's put forward, and he's contradicted himself numerous times.

 

bailey,

How is what I've wrote biased?

Which bits are silly?

Of course it's repetitive. Why do you think that is?

I shake my head and chuckle at just about every one of your posts. Such as this one, and your recent comments on Haye ruling the HW division in the 70's.

But it's all good fun.

Back on topic, I've given a breakdown of what Roy did in the time he didn't fight Nunn, and what he went on to do after.

Guys like zod only ever look from the opponents perspective.

Facts are facts, and my opinions are always based on logic.

Zod thinks Roy feared a faded Nunn.

Fine. But then why did he offer to fight Liles and then fight Tarver and Calzaghe etc?

I've put those questions to zod, and he replies by trying to tell me that Roy had no choice but to fight them.

Yeah right.

Exactly where have I posted what Roy was thinking?

The only thing I said was that Roy contemplated fighting Nunn, if he could get more out of it. We know that from zod's links.

When he couldn't, he finally went through with his plans to fight at HW. But he'd contemplated fighting Holyfield, before he'd even beaten Griffin in the rematch. And no, I'm not psychic, I've heard him speak of it.

Regarding Holyfield, read the excerpt from Jim Thomas's book.

Are you telling me that Roy was scared of Nunn, yet went to Atlanta to ask Thomas and Evander for a fight?

It defies all logic.

You can have your little dig.

I'm one of the most logical people on this forum.

You can check my post history.

It's pretty easy to distinguish whether or not a guy has ducked someone. Because you can look at the stylistic aspect etc, and then go and look who the supposed ducker tried to fight, who he went on to fight, as well as looking at the challenges those bouts brought.

More nonsense.

Toney was considered one of the best fighters in the world.

What about the Hopkins rematch?

You don't think fighting a 226 pound Ruiz at 34, was a bigger challenge than fighting a guy like Collins at 27?

Tarver? What had Nunn done at the time? Tarver brought a much bigger challenge, because Roy wasn't 28, he was almost 35, and he'd dropped muscle to fight an extremely motivated southpaw.

He had nothing to lose against Calzaghe? What about his pride? He didn't fight Joe purely for the money.

You won't give him credit for anything.

You and zod both have agendas.

He doesn't fight a guy like Collins, so you rip him. Then after he fights Ruiz, it was no big deal because he didn't fight Lennox.

He didn't fight Nunn, and you rip him.

But he fights Tarver and Calzaghe which were much bigger challengers, and it was only because he had no choice in the matter.

Hilarious!

atsch

And we know who those posters are.

So I've no need to worry.

 

1. The negotiations for the rematch were in 2002.

2. Bernard hadn't beaten De La Hoya.

3. During their famous argument on HBO, Hopkins immediately insulted Roy, and said that Roy couldn't expect the bigger share. (Even though Roy had beaten him, and he would had to have dropped weight)

4. Hopkins hasn't accomplished more than Roy.

5. Roy was willing to make the fight happen.

6. Look who Hopkins fought after talks had broken down.

7. Look who Roy fought after talks had broken down.


Here's their HBO argument:

http://youtu.be/UJbOw_5DPiE


Here's the link of Roy trying to make the fight:

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/boxing/stories/2002-07-10-jones-hopkins.htm


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