Where a fighter went out of his way to hurt or maim another fighter for one reason or another. Ali vs. Patterson or Moore?
Ali was pretty tame in comparsion of Jack Dempsey or Rocky Marciano, Henry Armstrong ranks over Ali also.
There are diferent kinds of cruelty. If torturing an oponent is the definition under the pretences of a boxing match, then Jack Johnson takes it by a mile. There is also destructive cruelty where the fighter is going for a knockout and is as ruthless as a man squashing a fly. The more polite this type of fighter is in his personal life the more sadistic he will be. He is nice to his mum but views the boxing ring like a computer game.
Greb vs. Tunney I and many others. He was doing everything except kicking his man in the groin and hitting him with a chair. However, it was just the way he fought. I don't think it was personal. Duran-Moore was a bit sadistic. Stupid Maganya.
I don't really think so, jus that Ali lacked the power that Dempsey and Marciano had. If you watch him vs some guys, especially in the 60's, he looks pretty mean when he opens up. The fight with Terell was borderline sadistic. Anyway, the first fight that i thought of was Bowe vs Golota II. They gave each other such a thorough beating that neither was really the same afterwards.
Don't think Golota was trying to hurt Bowe. Obviously he wanted to get him out of there, knock him the **** out... Look at what the pressure did to him when he couldn't.
If Ali got purposely called "Clay", then the cruel factor set in. With his immense Talent, the fight got one-sided real quick.
Tunney always emphasised that he admired Greb, and was a pall bearer at his funeral. He also said that Greb was greater pound for pound than Ray Robinson.
Tunney had grace --he accepted that such was Greb. Greb for his part had kind words to say about Tunney after giving him the worst beating of his life, saying that Tunney was his toughest fight and later choosing Tunney over Dempsey. Greb actually slapped down 4 grand on Tunney and said that Tunney is a man who "won't [allow himself to] be beat."
They seemed to be out to hurt each other every time they fought one another. Ali's holding in their second fight was flat out insulting and blatant.