Cruiserweight and Heavyweight thread.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by houmzz, Aug 21, 2014.



  1. Chuck Norris

    Chuck Norris Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Some which I brainstormed.

    Oleg Maskaev - trainer Freddie Roach, promoter Bob Arum.

    Timur Stark - trainer Ulli Wegner, promoter Sauerland.

    Odlanier Solis - Teddy Altas, promoter Al Haymon.

    Corrie Sanders - Kevin Cunningham, promoter Al Haymon.
     
  2. theanatolian

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    Ivan Dychko
    Also Emmanuel Steward
    Bob Arum

    I’m really curious what the hell Dychko is up to these days.
     
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  3. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Beat me to it.

    Now I’ll go with:

    Oscar Rivas
    Kronk Gym
    Sign with Arum 5 years earlier

    Not only would Rivas have gotten a title shot years ago with a better promoter, grandpa Bob also wouldn’t let him get butt****ed like that by Hearn and Whyte.
     
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  4. Inglis_1

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    Bryant Jennings post Klitschko was handled pretty badly and should never have jumped in with Ortiz so soon which virtually ended his career, now he gets used as an opponent. A move with uncle Al would have been better for him at the time but its too late now.
     
  5. theanatolian

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    People have been crazy in the last couple of years to discredit him to discredit Ortiz but Jennings 5 years ago was in the same position as fan favourite Michael Hunter is right now. I’ve been quoted here saying that Jennings from the Wlad and Ortiz fights would’ve beaten Joyce and Rivas and I stand by it.
     
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  6. Inglis_1

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    Yup and I may be in the minority here, but I had him beating Rivas before the stoppage (might score it again one day) and I had him beating Joyce 114-113. He needed to rebuild after Klitschko but had his career virtually ended by taking the Ortiz fight straight after and hasn't been anywhere near the same since mainly because of poor promotion.
     
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  7. Mendoza

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    He needs to get back into the ring. I want him active, I don't care if he fights 2 easy guys, as long as there is a top 30 type mixed in.

    Aim for the highest ranked alphabet guy that is willing to fight him.
     
  8. Mendoza

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    Arslanbek can rocket to the top. Great power he has.
     
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  9. Inglis_1

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    Funnily enough as we are talking suitable promoters and trainers, can golden boy get him there? They don't really have a say in the HW division and he isn't Mexican either. I hope it works out but I don't know if golden boy are the right promoters for him.
     
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  10. catchwtboxing

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    Carmen is my favorite spoiler for the Ruddock and Kean fights.

    I think there is no chance whatsoever he spoils this, but I think it is a good opponent to get at this time and adds to other good wins over Peter, Rice, and Bergman.
     
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  12. Big Ukrainian

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    Wow, incredibly quick right hand! Never seen (and never expected) a hand speed like that from Hrgovic. I know his opponent was awful, but still

    Would love to see Hrgovic vs Makhmudov as soon as possible
     
  13. Mendoza

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    Promoters cater to their fans. Right, Golden Boy can sign Arslanbek, but that doesn't mean they have lined up heavyweights for him. I doubt their fan base would have an interest in watching him over the Golden boy's stable of other fighters in the mid to lower weights.

    Bob Arum, who's been promoting for years said, his dream is to find a really talented Latino Heavyweight. Latino's really did not like John Ruiz, and his boring style. Andy Ruiz had the keys to make a fortune. He ate himself out of contention. Mind your these two were born int he USA.

    A Central America, or Caribbean born Latino talented heavyweight champion would be a giant in his home country. It might happen one day, but that person is going to need to fit into how the game has evolved. ie. He's going to need to be over 6'3" tall as most champions these day are around 6'5" or taller and that trend is not going away.
     
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  14. Mendoza

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    I saw it. Hrgovic wasn't at his sharpest due to covid-19 icing boxing, but his power was certainly there.

    Maybe his chin is so good that his philosophy and style is I'm going to get you, counters be damed, they don't bother me! He is very accurate with his punches, and that's important.

    He has a quick step backward, and some head movement when he focuses on it. I think he needs to stay active every three months.
     
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  15. UnleashtheFURY

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    I agree Carmen is a fun domestic level guy. But was Ruddock really an upset?