Cruiserweight and Heavyweight thread.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by houmzz, Aug 21, 2014.


  1. arve lie

    arve lie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What do you think about Charles Martin ? Ranked in IBF and WBO
    Mark de Mori ? Ranked in WBA
    Joseph Parker ? Ranked in WBA and WBO
     
  2. houmzz

    houmzz Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bad prospect.Always wide open to most,of the punches thrown precisely at him.Keeps his hands low.No fighter in my memory in recent times,who got success with this technique,at this weight.Pretty slow.Mowing across the ring with wide stance,this won't help him either.Open to stand in center of ring and engage,but with no defense,he will get loss on his record engaging like that,once he steps up.All fighters at heavyweight top 25,in boxrec ranks beats him.If we look in IBF rankings, everybody in top fifteen beats him.Further,in WBO ranks,I see him loosing to everybody in top fifteen.When he will get in eliminator,he will be in real trouble, he will get there because he have good,protective management.

    Good prospect.Seems best of three.Defensive fighter,who are open to trade when punches are thrown,but in doing so is smart with it.Systematically breaks down his opponents.Worst about him,is the part where he isn't stepped up his competition,since fight with Leapai.But I see him stepping up after few fights.He has trouble with brawlers who throw many punches.That's a reason,why he has draw with Leapai.His loss can come against fighter who moves a lot.Throw many punches in each round,and has workrate for 9 rounds.For future,I think he can get in eliminator position,if he is lucky.

    Decent prospect.Not that good,but better than Martin.As amateur he lost to Zhang Zhilei,7/5.He was decent in amateurs.He is fast on his feet.Moves lot.Throw many punches.But not that good,on defense in most of his fights.If we look at Nascimento fight,he was struggling at times.He is hittable,no head movement in most of his fights.His management wants to rush him,in facing top 10 boxer in WBO ranks,in month of december.If that happens,I see him loosing.
     
  3. houmzz

    houmzz Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    My mate @joeboxerparker ready to face Fres Oquendo or Glazkov in Hamilton, NZ in December after Sherman Williams @KevinBarryNZL @DucoEvents
     
  4. chitownfightfan

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    And he'll win vs Oquendo, but he'd be biting off way more than he can chew vs Glaskov.:think
     
  5. Matt in a hat

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    Perfect step up fight.
    Does Oquendo still have a bogus WBA rating though?
    That would be bad for him to get a high ranking in the WBA this soon and join the WBA lunch line. That's where fighters quit improving, and start waiting for a title shot fighting bums because they beat a ranked opponent.
    As odd as it sounds he's better off staying away from ranked guys for a while unless his team will continue to feed him tough opponents anyway.
    Look at Wilder in the WBC lunch line, and Andy Ruiz jr.in the WBO.
    They are just sitting there waiting, and not improving.
     
  6. houmzz

    houmzz Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I have similiar opinion about this.He is eight,as off august.:D
     
  7. houmzz

    houmzz Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He gets close to lunch line only if he defeats Kayode,who is at fifth,as off august.:D
     
  8. Matt in a hat

    Matt in a hat Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah, there are tougher guys who are un-ranked.
    He'd likely be lined up for that bogus interm belt after this. With Ortiz fighting Chagaev, a win for Parker here might very well line him up for the winner of Povetkin-Takam!
    So Parker sitting at what be 11-0 fighting the divisions elite?
    Maybe he's just that good, and it sure doesn't look like we'll have to wait long to find out.
     
  9. houmzz

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    I like idea knowing more about Parker in smallest amount of time possible,but that will ruin him.
     
  10. Matt in a hat

    Matt in a hat Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah that might be too much too soon. Also even if he wins some bogus WBA belt he would then be in line to fight Wlad. Then we're looking at the next Sam Peter.
     
  11. arve lie

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    Do you see Luis Ortiz beat a top 7-8 heavy?
    Klitschko, Pulev, Povetkin, Stiverne Wilder Fury Jennings
     
  12. houmzz

    houmzz Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He can beat Wilder,Fury and Jennings.In my estimation.
     
  13. houmzz

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    Andy Ruiz JR withdraws from his fight due to family reasons.All the best to him.
     
  14. houmzz

    houmzz Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You can vote for your can pusher in can pusher thread.
     
  15. houmzz

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    Gary Cornish will fight Ian Lewison in nowember,or european fighter,if Lewison can't fight.