Cruiserweight and Heavyweight thread.

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  1. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Anybody know if Viktor Jurk is any good? 11 wins, 9 KOs against limited competition. Brief amateur carrier but seems to have gotten a win against Honhanysian. 24 years old, and almost 6'9". Southpaw.

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  2. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    i agree. I still had hopes for him but after watching this, i am DONE.
     
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  3. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Viktor Jurk vs Edonis Berisha | Hamburg Boxt! Vol. 4 - YouTube

    First time i am seeing him. Solid movement, good jab, good power. He did get caught with a few wild swings so his defense needs work.

    I think he can probably be a top 10 contender with some serious work. Maybe even better. But he is only 24 and shouldn't be rushed.
     
  4. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You caught my curiosity with this fighter so I went and watched 3 of his fights, my thoughts...

    Just watched him vs some 300lber named Berisha. Now Jurk at one point in round one squares up and gets hit with a left and goes down, it's ruled a slip but I rewatched that several times, it was a knockdown. Jurk wasn't hurt but then he got caught a few more times before he ends things in the opening round dropping Berisha hard and opeinginv a giant cut.

    Then I watched him against another near 300 lb fighter named Vial who Jurk dropped seconds in real hard, then stopped Vial who gave up after the next punch

    Finally skimmed through his decision win vs Christian Dermaj. Dermaj came in fighting with a high guard and mentallity to throw like 5 punches a round. Very negative fighting style coming forward hands way up and then hug and hold, no jab.

    So my thoughts on Jurk, he's a tall guy with a nice straight left but his defense needs to be shored up ASAP as his chin is not very hard hard to find, even these low level journeymen are tagging him on the button. Still, he's young and has time on his side.
     
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  5. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Anyone know anything about Mourad Aliev?
     
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  6. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lol we had similar thoughts, I think him making the top ten is definitely predicated on him first and foremost fixing his current leaky defense.
     
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  7. LongJohn

    LongJohn Active Member Full Member

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    He’s the fella who threw a strop at the Tokyo Olympics wasn’t he? Against Clarke?
     
  8. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    i haven't seen that but probably
     
  9. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A Frenchmen born in Russia residing in Germany who looks like he's from Turkey?

    He's a big dude, again a southpaw like Jurk, I like that he likes to throw combos and his defense isn't nearly as bad as Jurk. Hard to tell with his limited opposition, but id be interested in seeing him against a live body, see how he does, not half bad from the looks of it.
     
  10. IshidaRyuken

    IshidaRyuken New Member Full Member

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    去年巴黎奥运会后乌兹别克斯坦奥运代表队表彰大会上,贾洛洛夫对本国总统米尔济约耶夫等人表示,自己目前的目标是集齐四条职业拳击腰带。在奥运会上夺得第二枚金牌后,他宣布退出业余拳击,专心打职业,但直到去年年底才传出比赛消息。事实上,今年2月6日加拿大蒙特利尔比赛的队医,就因为嘴上长疱疹,不允许他与大卫·斯皮尔蒙特比赛。4月5日即将在哈萨克斯坦举行的比赛,目前还不会取消。本以为他会彻底退出业余拳击,没想到这两天传出拳击将在2028年奥运会继续作为比赛项目的消息,让他有希望继续夺得第三枚奥运金牌,从而成为继拉斯洛·帕佩、特奥菲洛·史蒂文森、费利克斯·萨翁之后,第四位夺得三枚奥运金牌而载入史册的人。一方面,他此前接受媒体采访时表示,乌兹别克斯坦人称他为英雄,但他认为自己还没到那个水平,能成为无可争议的重量级拳王就好了。我想说,人不可能拥有一切,34岁时至少要花半年时间在业余拳击上,为奥运会做准备。尤其考虑到职业拳坛还有Teremoana Teremoana(98岁)Dubois(97岁)Torrez(99岁)Huni(99岁)Itauma(04岁)以及Parker(92岁)Bakole(93岁)Kabayel(92岁)Hrgovic(92岁)Wardley(94岁)等人,职业拳击是为了追求利润,不像业余拳击,因为有稳定的比赛争夺奥运会的资格。在两年前的采访中,贾洛洛夫希望与乌西克·富里·约书亚直接对决,但现在他在采访中表示要努力爬上排名。我现在对他不抱任何期望。作为业余拳手获得的各种荣誉,为他带来了乌兹别克斯坦政府的多处房产、汽车和奖金。IBA主席在他23年结婚时送给他一辆宝马X5。此外,他在国内电视台、汽车、酒店、矿泉水、体育用品、房地产、空调、服装等都有不少代言,他的名字在乌兹别克斯坦早已家喻户晓。正如我上面所说,职业拳击不会像TopRank那样,在他还是业余选手的时候给他足够的职业比赛机会。不能太贪心。
     
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  11. LongJohn

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    Arutyunyan fight against Shitana from a couple weeks back. Decent little scrap this, Shitana was game as a bagel.
     
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  12. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    Good fight, but a quick stoppage there. Arutyunyan was winning, but Shitana kept coming back and was ready to fight on.
     
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  13. E Musk

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    He is a big guy with some skill, but he does not hit hard enough nor is he durable enough to go beyond the regional level.
     
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  14. NullaLexInk

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    Looks like the Itauma vs. Hysa fight was false. Hysa will instead be fighting on April 12th against fellow undefeated Edward Castillo.

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    That or he's looking at a pretty quick turn around, since Itauma is set to fight on May 24th, opponent TBD.

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  15. E Musk

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    Top heavyweight prospects

    To qualify you must be undefeated, under 34, and not a current world title belt holder.






    1 ) Bahkhodir Jalolov **** 1/2 Age 30. 6'7" tall with an 81" reach. 250 pounds 14-0, 13 Ko's.. Oh what potential! Jarolov is a big southpaw who uses a punishing left. His straight left is the best in the game. Top end power is perhaps the second

    best on the list, which says something. Good hand speed. He moves extremely well on legs of steel and keeps his range. Not an in-fighter, though. But with his length, power, speed and skills he doesn't have to be. The type of fighter who uses his legs, height and reach for offense and defense. The gold medal winner of the recent Tokyo Olympics. Man is he talented!


    2) Agit Kabayel. **** 1/2 Rated by Ring Magazine )Age 32, 6'3" 240 pounds. 26 -0 18 KO's. Kaybel can box, move, and hit pretty hard. He is very solid, but lacks the elite traits of the top top prospects to rate higher even though he did beat some good competition, most notably Chisora, Makumudov and Sanchez! And Zhang. One of the best body punchers in the division.Kabayel was ducked by Fury last year! Fury pulled out of a scheduled fight in December 2022. He is on the rise. A very underrated guy, More than the sum of his parts.


    3. Fabio Wardley. *** 1/2 Age 29. 18-0-1 16 KO's. 6'5" 240 lbs. Estimated reach 80". Wardley is big, being moved quickly and producing a lot of KO's. But is he a good boxer and how is his chin? He has avenged his draw with a smashing 2nd round KO. He is a big man that is in fine shape. I sold on his power! He is being moved quickly and marketed well.
    A man who is going places. A bit raw since he had no amatuer expiernce.


    4 ) Mark Petrovski *** 1/2 ( hard to predict ) Age 23. 6'1 estimated to reach 76". 215 pounds. The young Petroski recently went pro ( 7-0 5 ko's ) after winning the world super heavyweight amatuer championship. He's a little small for a heavyweight, about 6'1" and 220 pounds, but he can fight and punch. And he's got a good chin and heart. He has a moving/unloading style when he gets inside. He's got quick and accurate hands. Not one to take a step back. He has the right style for his size, but I wonder about his upper potential as a pro vs. the best big men who are all skilled super heavyweights that feature natural height, range, and power these days. Appears to be fast tracked with good match making, a sign he is going somewhere.



    5 ) Aleski Dronov. *** 1/2 6'5" tall. Estimated reach 78" 23 years old just went pro in March 2024 and is already 5-0, 3 KO's. He is physically maturing 6'4" 1/2 inch 245-250 pound man. Owner of fast hands and very good accuracy he is a rare big man with an inside game. His body attack is already as good as anyones in the division. He also has a good uppercut. Dronov has average length arms for his height, but has thick arms ( good for defense and covering his body ) so this style will suit him. He bends well at the waist and moves his head well. Winner of the the world jr championships under 19 he wasn't quite old enough to break through the senior amateurs at his age of 19-21, but that is amateur heavyweight boxing. An 18-21 year old kid sedlom beats the best physically mature older men. His power level is MUCH better now as opposed to the amateurs. He switched his game of piling up points in the amateurs for forceful punching in the pros. He relocated near me. He is the Russian Golden boy. Need to develop his jab a bit. I am still not sure about his power which can range from good to very good. Due to his style, he is going to be in the fight zone and risk being hit often. He needs a good trainer and has already appeared with Fury.



    6 ) Moses Itauma. *** 1/2 Height 6'6" 240 pounds, reach estimated 81 Age 20. ( 11-0. 9 ko's. hard to project due to his young age) He has very good speed. Power appears at the top end. Accuracy is good. There is a lot to like, but I suspect a bit of a glass jaw, as he has not been hit yet, and he hails from the Isle of glass jaws. We shall see. Itauma will be very hyped and he deserves to be. He is very offensive minded.



    7 ) Justis Huni 6'4" *** 245 estimated reach of 77" 245 pounds. 12-0, 7 Ko's. Age 25 The World Olympic junior champion. This kid is not your typical limited Samon slugger. He is, in fact, a good boxer with average power. He is quick and young. Skilled he can box. He is not likely to go beyond the top 4 due to his power level.


    8) Richard Torrez jr. *** 12-0 11 Ko's. 6'2" 220 pounds. Reach 76" Age 25 The silver medalists in the Tokyo Olympic games flashed quick hands and good power as a professional. A high IQ fighter for sure and one with an aggressive style. There is something there. Fairly impressive. The best young USA heavyweight.


    9 ) Lenier Pero. *** 11-0, 8 KO's. 6'4 1/2 " 79reach. Age 32. Pero is a skilled southpaw with fast hands. However he was chinny in the Amateurs, and might lack a good work ethic. But the talent is there.


    10 ) AMATUER. **** David Surov Age 20, 6'2' Estimated reach 77" This kid is a star in the making! He has excellent speedy feet, good straight punches to the head and body, and quite a bit of power. Good fundamental defense. He has fast hands and is an excellent athlete capable of ducking punches and moving around the ring with speed. Okay he lost to Jalovov at age 19, but he made him work and did better than anyone in either of his Olympic games. He appears to have the best foot speed and combines it backward , forwards and sideways ... The best footwork since young Ali? He appears to be durable as well. He will be the favovitie to win the World Amater Championship in May 2025!

    Remember the name and check him out.



    Rating system:


    5 stars: Not only a future world champion but a man capable of defending a world title belt. A name worthy mention for the hall of fame! A prospect can rate no higher than that

    4 1/2 stars/ Possible belt holder and likely title challenger

    4 stars: A current or future top 10 rated guy ( ring magazine or box rec ratings ) who may fight for a title.

    3 1/2 stars A good bet to make the top 25 at Box Rec

    3 stars: Prospect is good bet to make the top 50 in the " Box Rec ": ratings
     
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