Cruiserweight and Heavyweight thread.

See now you're lying to me. The Stiverne fight is the only thing you were wrong about Wilder over all these years? GTFO. You dksab especially when it comes to Wilder but refuse to admit it. Wilder doesn't warrant the criticism you want. You need to act like a child being willfully ignorant of what's going on just so you can demand. Easier to do that when ignorant isn't it?

Found an example of the type of hating you do. https://www.boxingforum24.com/threa...-s-deontay-wilder.454711/page-3#post-14581316

Of course now you'd say Wach is an easy touch for Wilder. You were wrong and if you weren't so biased against him you'd have known this. Old fanboy let it go.

 

Wilder can get one unification but two is a stretch this year. The Parker fight would be too perfect for Wilder next but then why are they talking September. Doesn't sit well and is sounding like they want to swerve.

 

Lying how? Wilders was beyond coddled at that point of his career, Mormeck was definitely better than any single win on his resume and Wach could have very well knocked him out at the time. Definitely stand by what I said then.

None of this changes anything. Wilder has scraped the bottom of the barrel and has faced the worst opposition possible as champion. Did Wilder go farther than I envisioned in 2013-2014? Yeah sure. In that sense yours truly was wrong. Is he still coddled and avoiding top competition? Very much so.

Not sure what you think dredging up an irrelevant post from 2013(4 years ago) proves. Wach would be a terrible defense. The fact that nearly 4 years later(half of which he spent as champ) Wilder has yet to face or beat a top 5-10 heavyweight says it all.

 

I really think if Wlad wins (conclusively) in April his best next fight (as long as he doesn't retire) would be Wilder.

Parker/Wilder would be a really interesting fight to watch tho.

 

Usyk is sparring with Malik Scott for his next bout

PIC

http://boxingnews.com.ua/ru/foto/19087-usik-sparringuet-so-skottom-gotovjas-k-boju-s-hanterom-foto

 

lol tell your boy wilder to defend vs a real guy . before critizing parker...

 

Is Parker a real guy? If so tell him not to duck Wilder.

 

lmao ... trust me no heavyweight is scared to duck wilder.. all he has is his right hand.

 

No telling what Wlad will want to do if he wins. I sure would want to see that immediately, no waiting.

 

Why would I trust a troll on a forum? That's laughable. The proof will be in the pudding after the Hughie Fury fight.

 

It looks like Oleg Maskaev will make a comeback

 

Mormeck did nothing at heavyweight then got knocked out and never heard from again. There's a thread about Wach/Wilder, that's why that old post that makes you look silly is relevant. Wach was always a slow stiff has been, any version of Wilder including debut Wilder beats him and now you'd ***** if the fight got made. It proves that you make statements to troll Wilder that make you look silly years later.

Stiverne was ranked #2 in Ring Magazine, and top 5 everywhere else and 70% of the forum was picked him to win. Because you're ignorant doesn't mean you get a pass. Go look it up.

 

Context and Relevance. Learn what they are dummy. Wilder hadn't faced anyone at the time, his handlers have steered him clear of any journeymen or fringe contenders who posed a threat. The post made sense and was rational... AT THE TIME. 4 years later Wilder would obviously be a massive favorite to beat Wach, and I would pick him to do so. That said it's a **** fight, especially considering Wilder hasn't defended against a top fighter, had he done so at least once or twice he would get a pass here. 'Officially'? Yeah Stiverne was a top 10 guy, but anyone who knows boxing understands that he never was. His best wins are against a faded Arreola, shot Austin(whom he struggled immensely with) and Rossy, a light hitting gatekeeper or high level journeymen who dropped him on his ass and narrowly lost on the cards.

You can't accept that Wilder scrapes the bottom of the barrel. That's a fact. A true fan of the sport wants to see the best fight the best instead of making up excuses as to why their favorite fighters don't.

 

Your post never made sense at any time. It just makes you look silly believing that slow stiff, who recently should've lost to the journeyman Nascimento could ever beat a live body. Suits your purposes of being an anti-Wilder troll. A true fan of the sport understands there's different ways of building up a fighter in the pros, something you are clearly not. A petulant child is willfully ignorant just so you can demand something. Lomochenko didn't respect the development processes of pro boxing like he did amateur and took an unnecessary loss for nothing. That's just ignorant and stupid and real boxing fans understand this. Opinions aren't facts either. I'll just chalk that up to your ignorance yet again on display.

It's funny, Wach is a sad hill to die on for an argument. You should be praising Wilder's development then if you truly believed the slow polish fighter would've wiped him out but would get wiped out now. That's an amazing transformation.