Cruiserweight and Heavyweight thread.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by houmzz, Aug 21, 2014.


  1. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Evgeny Romanov looks very good! I think in a few fights time, he'd be ready to face most of the guys in the top 15 of the heavyweight division and I would personally favor him over nearly everybody ranked below the number 5 spot. I think he'd beat Dillian Whyte, current Carlos Takam and a fight against Andy Ruiz Jr would be interesting.
     
  2. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    He might crack the top 15 but would do better as a CW.
     
  3. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He's better than most guys in the top 10 in my opinion. He's better than Dillian Whyte, Adam Kownacki, Christian Hammer and etc. He looks like a more powerful version of Ruslan Chagaev. I wouldn't write him off personally! And at cruiser weight, he'd probably be drained too. Considering he weighs 220+ pounds with very little fat and in peak physical condition.
     
  4. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    AJ now >> AJ that fought Batkov. Your post alluded to Romanov > Joshua. Thats what you were hinting at. that post has blown up in your face Elroy , so you're close to tears. lol.
     
  5. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Take some logic courses if you comprehend me claiming: I was SURPRISED by Romanov doing a better job against Denis Bakhtov than AJ did against Denis Bakhtov to Romanov > AJ.

    And AJ is the same boxer right now, as he was when he fought Bakhtov. Whilst Vitali Klitschko had multiple shoulder surgeries and was a part time politician when he fought Kevin Johnson.
     
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  6. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    So even an 8-0 Joshua with F -all experience would have beaten Wlad? You must really think Wlad sucks . lol.
     
  7. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Take some logic courses! The words 'suck' and 'Wlad' is probably best associated with you. You probably just can't stop thinking about Wlad in your life. You probably wished you could 'suck' him off.

    Yes, I really do think a grandpa Wlad is that bad.
     
  8. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    If an 8-0 Joshua can beat a Wlad that displayed better movement than in his jab & grab days , than a primer more experienced Joshua would destroy any version of him.
    Younger Wlad has lost and struggled to far lesser guys than an 8-0 green , inexperienced Joshua. lol.
    ps, the ad hominem attacks just make you look incompetent and foolish. If you can't talk boxing , you should cease replying.
     
  9. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Your fallacies make you look incompetent and foolish. I'm merely calling a spade a spade. And in this case, you committing fallacies means you're in need of logic courses.

    Wladimir Klitschko's movement was no better against Anthony Joshua than against his past opponents. It was more down to Anthony Joshua making Wlad's movement look good, because of how inferior his own movement is in comparison. Joshua made Wlad look like a damn ballerina. The same Joshua also made a 37 year old Carlos Takam look like a cat.

    Joshua is now in his prime. I can't see him having some mythical superhuman prime or improving anymore than he has already. He hasn't improved at all since he fought Wladimir Klitschko. If anything, he's looked worse in his next 2 fights. So cut out any nonsense about a 'primer' mythical Joshua that doesn't exist and most like wouldn't exist. Except maybe in your fantasies.

    Sure, Wlad also lost lost and struggled against far lesser guys than prime David Haye. But guess what happened when Wlad did actually fight prime David Haye? He won!

    And why the hell are you even talking about a retired Wladimir Klitschko right now? What relevance does he have to the topic at hand?
     
  10. houmzz

    houmzz Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Kuzmin/Karpency fight inside, scroll down for the fight:https://vk.com/boxingteamkuzmin

    P.S. Karpency was knocked down in the 4th round by low blow. If this would be judged by different referee this would be a KO. Karpency was down for the count in the 5th round. I think that Kuzmin is the danger man for the top 10 heavyweights. Just by judging this fight he would cause major problems for Andy Ruiz Jr. But I expect a bigger fight for him by the end of the year.
     
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  11. houmzz

    houmzz Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think Romanov would beat Haye right now but I don't think they will ever meet. Romanov needs exposure to get him these big fights.
     
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  12. DanielDimov

    DanielDimov Jabbing all night Full Member

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    Kyotaro Fujimoto will be back on May 6 in Osaka against Aaron Russell.
     
  13. DanielDimov

    DanielDimov Jabbing all night Full Member

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    Simon Kean is aiming at a canadian derby against Braidwood. June 16.
     
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  14. houmzz

    houmzz Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    IN 2007, Mike Perez swam to a smuggler’s boat off the Cuban coast, hid at sea for nine days, and was held at gunpoint before touching the Mexican shore.

    Finally, he met Irish boxing promoter Gary Hyde, masquerading under the moniker ‘Miguel’, who had instigated his defection.

    “Coming to Ireland 10 years ago was the best decision I made in my life but not everything has been good,” Mike Perez tells Boxing News. “Things have been hard here. I had a hard time with the guy that brought me. When I arrived, he was like a different person but I found the manager I have now and he’s helped me a lot. He’s like a dad to me.”

    The exceptional amateur, who was schooled in Cuba’s celebrated La Finca programme alongside the likes of Guillermo Rigondeaux and Erislandy Lara, had already claimed Gold at the World Junior Championships in 2004 and boasted victories over Luis Ortiz and Yunier Dorticos.

    It would be another three-and-a-half years before the Cuban’s presence was widely acknowledged after an artistic yet destructive display at Matchroom’s first international Prizefighter tournament. But, as is so often the bane of Cuba’s boxing defectors, with success came the tussle of promotional issues and Perez was forced out of the ring for a year-and-a-half.

    When Mike Perez did finally return, he was every bit as ferocious. In just his second bout back, he made his US debut on Gennady Golovkin’s undercard against heralded knockout artist Magomed Abdusalamov. What should have been the pinnacle of Perez’s career thus far was marred by tragedy when Abdusalamov, having been cleared by the doctors ringside, was found to have sustained a large blot clot to the brain. Unbeknownst to Perez, who was already on his way back to Cork, the subsequent brain damage would have tragic and life-changing consequences for Abdusalamov.

    “That fight changed my life,” Perez admits. “I tried to hide it. I admit it now, I hid it for years. I got a lot of abuse on social media from people, and I was hiding. I started drinking a lot, doing a lot of stupid things, and not really training. It was hard.”

    Just 10 weeks later, he was thrown into the biggest fight of his career against Carlos Takam. After comfortably securing the first five rounds, Perez had to survive a vicious onslaught from the French Cameroonian throughout the second half of the fight. He clinched a deserved draw but it was clear the burdens of the fight with Abdusalamov had seen him lose both enthusiasm and spite.

    He came into his next bout with Bryant Jennings, in July 2014, almost a stone heavier, where his suffered his first loss after being docked a point in the 12th and final round for hitting after the break despite no prior warning.

    “I can’t believe they gave it to him,” recalls Perez. “Jennings didn’t do much. The fight with Takam was a much harder fight for me.”

    By the time he faced Alexander Povetkin in Russia, just under a year later, Perez sombrely admits he was lost in a dark place.

    “I’d train hard but then I’d go home to my apartment and drink,” he admits. “I did that for the whole camp before the fight. When I got knocked down in the first round, I didn’t even care.”

    He didn’t make it out of that first round and, at the post-fight press conference, he announced his immediate retirement from the sport, but it was that loss which eventually freed him of his plight.

    “I’m happy that happened because that was the thing which woke me up. It was a bad stage in my life which I couldn’t control, but I found myself again and I thank God. It used to cross my mind when I fought. Now, I’ve had help and I’m in a good place.”

    Two years later, much to the surprise of the boxing community, an almost indistinguishable Perez announced his return to the sport with refreshed fervor. Having lost an almighty 75lbs, he dropped to the cruiser weight division, intending on fighting Tommy McCarthy on Ryan Burnett’s under card in Belfast, until McCarthy pulled out and Perez recorded a largely in-efficacious 19-second knockout over a petrified late replacement, Viktor Biscak.

    That night, Eddie Hearn said, “He’s got a great story that needs to be told. The way his life has turned around, and he will tell it to you one day.”

    He was spot on. Perez was announced as an unexpected inclusion in the World Boxing Super Series with many touting him as the dark horse of the competition. Ten years after his defection, and the endured litany of Sturm und Drang since, he finally had his long-awaited opportunity to fight for a world title against WBC cruiserweight boss, Mairis Briedis.

    As the merciless oracles of boxing ordained, his efforts were ultimately fruitless. Briedis clinched a close but crrect points decision in a dire fight, sullied, some observed, by the champion’s persistent holding.

    “I got frustrated. It was my first fight at that level in two years and I could have done better. After the fight, I saw an interview that Breidis did saying that I wasn’t strong and I wasn’t this or that, and I thought ‘what a little *****’. If I wasn’t that strong, why wouldn’t he stop holding me after I touched him. If he fought me the way he fought Usyk I would’ve knocked his ass out. That was a great fight and Breidis did well. He showed Usyk can be beaten.”

    For all of Perez’s abundantly clear ability to compete at world level, courageous transformation, and humble character, it’s disappointing that he has yet to be signed by a promoter.

    “Things didn’t go well in the Briedis fight but I believe I can be a champion at this weight,” declares Perez, who returned with a one-round victory over Pablo Magrini in February.

    “I don’t know if it’s because I’m Cuban but it’s hard to find a promoter and it’s hard to get fights and to come back at that sort of level. I know I have the talent so I have to just keep pushing and see what happens.”

    Until that opportunity comes, he’ll train indefinitely, walk his beloved dog in the Irish snow, and suffer through Disney films with his loving family, despite being a devout horror enthusiast.
     
  15. _Scott_

    _Scott_ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And again a **** poor performance by Kuzmin, who almost weighed in at 250 pounds. It took a one eyed Rivas only 3 rounds to stop the can Karpency. Once Kuzmin steps up, he will lose.