We all know David Haye is not just the slickest cruiserweight (Just edging out Johnny Nelson) of all time but one of the most talented boxers in the sports history. After dominating a stacked cruiserweight division he 'dared to be great' by going up and fighting much bigger men, but fell short of becoming the greatest fighter of all time because of that toe injury. Usyk for a white guy has some moves but he doesn't possess the brutal power and speed of Haye. Both move great but Haye has the superior reflexes and ring IQ. Usyk is up there with Haye on technical ability but Haye is naturally more supremely talented. Both have serious faces but Haye's in ring concentration face is proof of his high level ring IQ. Haye is up there with Willie Pep and Benny Leonard as a ring general. You can see it in his facial expression when he moves about the ring. Haye has the aura of a 'master boxer'. It radiates from every melanated pore on his God like body. Haye brutal jab-right hand KO in the 3rd.
No. Haye is clearly ATG level. He's better than Robinson. There is nothing Robinson does better than Haye. Haye has more power p4p and is more athletic than Robinson. This is fact. Boxing has evolved.
I couldn't care less for race issues, but this is an excellent thread, and a very difficult question. Until yesterday, I would had thought about Haye as a winner.... But, just now, I think that Usyk would win (CW and HW).......
But do you think Usyk has the God given talent Haye was born with? Do you think he could go 12 with the Wlad of back then with a broken toe?
Yes, I do. Usyk has "the God given talent". I think the same for David Haye, but I don't like his trash talking. Anyway, I can smell a very nice future for HW division.
Mormeck and Enzo. It's the quality of those two that make the wins so special. Enzo for example is an ATG puncher at cruiserweight and Haye walked through him with ease. When Enzo went on to KO the great RJJ in brutal fashion it made Haye's win over Enzo all the more greater.