CST80's Random Boxing Scorecards For Modern & Classic Matches Depot/Discussion Thread.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by CST80, Jul 12, 2018.


  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Precisely. Now what about that can you not process? I could go up there and do what everyone else does, and pick all the winners by taking the easy way out, but I find that boring, so I analyze every fight thoroughly and look for possible scenarios that no one else has thought of and if I find a feasible enough scenario that's appealing to me, I go with it, knowing its a gamble, because I love the rush I get, as opposed to just sitting there and being bored out of my skull. But in most matches, if I don't see a possible scenario, I don't take the risk. Because the league is fun that way, you can take risks without losing a boatload of money. Wrap your head around that, its fun, as in fun, Verstehen? Chill the **** out and stop taking everything so goddamned seriously. You haven't uncovered some hidden truth about me that no one else has, you're no master sleuth, the guys in Kirk's thread know the score with me, when I'm being deadly serious and when I'm taking a gamble.... because they have more than two brain cells that they can rub together. You on the other hand seem like an awkward socially inept schwachkopf, that misses little things like nuance, because you are dumb, and they are not. Now stop harassing me you annoying ****wit.
     
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  2. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    I really do, these are the fights that I watched as a kid growing up that made me fall in love with the sport. If you get the chance you should watch the Arguello vs Escalera II fight I posted post #143, just one of the many exciting Arguello fights. He was a great man, nicest man you'd ever meet, and my favorite boxer ever.
     
  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    What can I say, I'm unforgiving.:D

    That's insane logic.:lol: I thought Oscar boxed beautifully, and gave away the last two rounds, neither of which were remotely close to 10-8's.:lol:
     
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  4. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You got that right, it was a lot like Canelo vs Triple G in that respect. G was very active, but landed little clean, Canelo was just too slippery for the majority of the fight.

    The difference of course was that SRL landed a lot of flashy eye catching lightning fast combinations on Hagler that swung rounds in SRL's favor, whereas Canelo landed more powerful blows on G like those brutal uppercuts, but he didn't overwhelm G like SRL overwhelmed Hagler in many of those rounds. G took more punishment vs Canelo than Hagler took vs SRL, but arguably SRL did have a more clear victory over Hagler due to those combinations and frankly due to Hagler's gameplan. (i.e. Hagler coming out uncharacteristically orthodox for the first 2 rounds)

    There are a lot of similarities to the flow of both fights, with how well Canelo started winning the early rounds vs G similar to how SRL won the early rounds vs Hagler, and with both G and Hagler starting to come on in the middle rounds. Though SRL looked to be in more trouble at times vs Hagler than Canelo was vs G, and SRL was clinching a lot whereas Canelo wasn't clinching vs G. But that's understandable given SRL's age and coming off such a long layoff.
     
  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Oh God.... here you come.:hang:lol:

    Canelo did well throughout, which is why I scored it 116-112 for GGG, but said 115-113 was fine as well. For precisely the reasons you stated, but sadly Canelo wasn't as consistent or as flashy as SRL, and GGG was far more accurate and relentless than Hagler.
     
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  6. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Yeah, I think I have both Escalera fights on my to watch list. I think I watched the first years ago but didn't really appreciate what was happening. Arguello vs Pryor 1 is probably my favorite fight so I want to give them another chance.
     
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  7. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He wasn't as flashy as SRL, didn't land as many long combinations as SRL did, but he did land harder more impactful punches on G than SRL landed on Hagler. Of course we're going to disagree on how accurate and effective G was, but I will accept that G did more to claim a victory than Hagler did. Hagler just really fought the wrong fight, especially early on, he came out smiling and just seemed to be too overconfident like this was going to be easy work. Another thing was the round limit had just gone from 15 rounds to 12 rounds and I think that played a role in how both fighters approached the bout as well. That said. SRL did look to be in more trouble in some of those rounds than Canelo did vs G. And you can't ignore the clinching. I mean for all the complaining about Canelo's so-called "running" vs G, he wasn't clinching like SRL needed to vs Hagler.
     
  8. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Canelo didn't clinch because he knew he couldn't over power GGG in the clinch, its a pity he didn't because maybe that would have broken the rhythm of and limited the output of GGG like SRL did with Hagler and then Canelo would have had a legit argument that he did win.
     
  9. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    I don't think Canelo knows how to fight out of a clinch.
    And GGG is pretty crafty when tied up.
    So it makes sense for Canelo not to even try. It would be like fighting fire with fire.
     
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  10. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    A epic fight to be sure, but always hard for me to watch is Arguello vs Pryor 1. As far as Arguello vs Escalera the second fight is much better for action.
     
  11. rorschach51

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    "School Boy" Bobby Chacon vs Rafael "Bazooka" Limon II (April 9. 1979) (12 Rounds for the NABF Super Featherweight Title) 5* fight.

    Round 1: 10-9 Chacon
    Round 2: 10-9 Chacon
    Round 3: 10-9 Limon
    Round 4: 10-9 Limon
    Round 5: 10-9 Chacon
    Round 6: 10-9 Chacon
    Round 7: TD

    My Score: 58-56 Chacon

    Official Scores: (60-56 Chacon) (59-56 Chacon) (59-56 Chacon)
    Winner: Due to a accidental headbutt causing a cut on Limon by Chacon, and because Chacon was leading at the time of the foul the fight was ruled a Technical Draw.

    I never liked Bobby Chacon, I always felt like he received a lot of hometown cooking, I was surprised the CSAC didn't award this fight to Bobby.

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  12. rorschach51

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    Mike Rossman vs Victor Galindez II (April 14, 1979) (15 Rounds for the WBA Light-Heavyweight Title)

    Round 1: 10-9 Rossman
    Round 2: 10-9 Rossman
    Round 3: 10-9 Rossman
    Round 4: 10-9 Galindez
    Round 5: 10-9 Galindez
    Round 6: 10-9 Galindez
    Round 7: 10-9 Galindez
    Round 8: 10-9 Galindez
    Round 9: 10-9 Galindez RTD

    My Score: 87-84 Galindez

    Official Scores: (N/A)
    Winner: By RTD (corner retirement) after the 9th round to regain the Light-Heavyweight Championship of the World Victor Galindez.

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  13. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    again? whats going on in your head?
     
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  14. FrankinDallas

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    I also felt DLH won but he shouldn't have run the last 3 rounds. Would have forced the idiot judges to give him the win.

    Just thought of something: was Adelaide Byrd, or one of relatives , one of the judges?
     
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    Alfredo Pitalua vs Jim Watt (April 17, 1979) (15 Rounds for the WBC Lightweight Title)

    Round 1: 10-9 Pitalua
    Round 2: 10-9 Pitalua
    Round 3: 10-9 Pitalua
    Round 4: 10-9 Pitalua
    Round 5: 10-9 Pitalua
    Round 6: 10-9 Watt
    Round 7: 10-8 Watt
    Round 8: 10-9 Watt
    Round 9: 10-9 Watt
    Round 10: 10-9 Watt
    Round 11: 10-9 Watt
    Round 12: TKO

    My Score: 105-103 Watt (ATOS)

    Official Scores: (N/A)
    Winner: By 12th round Technical Knockout to win the WBC Lightweight Championship (Duran vacated in January of 79'.

    I don't know what this British commentator is talking about, Watt in't doing bad at all but he lost the first 5 rounds on my card. Pitalua is doing the better work landing a variety of shots besides the jab unlike Watt. The 6th round was the first time I thought Watt's jab and straight left hand was the better work done in the round.

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