CST80's Random Boxing Scorecards For Modern & Classic Matches Depot/Discussion Thread.

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  1. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    "On 16 August 2004, Richard Merla, then a member of the Bandidos Motorcycle Club, was playing cards with Quiroga when a dispute arose concerning a Scarface poster that Merla had taken from one of Quiroga's friends."
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Quiroga#Murder

    Of course. Do these things happen any other way?
     
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  2. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    the bandidos statement was true (my handle is not related in any way with that group). this dude was just a rabid dog, all the other members were fond of robert.
     
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  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Chris Eubank vs. Steve Collins 12 Rounds @ Super Middleweight, March 18, 1995.

    Round 1 Collins 10-9
    A lot of jabs from CES, but little lands clean, Collins lands a few looping hooks. Close round.
    Round 2 Collins 10-9 One twos from CES overreaching, Collins feinting in and following up with wild flurries.
    Round 3 Collins 10-9 First half to Eubank counters, Collins bounced back to strong to dominate second half.
    Round 4 Collins 10-9 Better defense and offense from Eubank, but Collins still stole it with cleaner work.
    Round 5 Collins 10-9 Great round from SC, countering the lunges of CES & landed overhands and looping hooks.
    Round 6 Eubank 10-9 Close round, but CES edged it with lead rights, jabs and decent counter left hooks.
    Round 7 Collins 10-9 Back and forth, Eubank countering, Collins edged it with the jab and a flurry to seal it.
    Round 8 Collins 10-9 Collin outworks then drops Eubank with straight right to chest, CES comes back strong late.
    Round 9 Collins 10-9 Steve has a dominant round landing two heavy flurries, and rocks Eubank late with 2 rights.
    Round 10 Eubank 10-8 Chris comes out drops Collins in a heap with lead right early, then showboats like an ass.
    Round 11 Collins 10-9 Razor close, both men gassed and inaccurate with flailing arm punches, SC more active.
    Round 12 Eubank 10-9 Wild and woolly 12th, both men wild and gassed, Eubank landed sharper harder shots.

    116-110 Collins

    Solid intelligent and scrappy performance from The Celtic Warrior, who drew the lead and countered brilliantly the lunging Eubank throughout, usually the superior counter puncher in the equation. It wasn't all that close, Eubank was far too passive, and while he landed a ton of jabs and lead rights, he rarely followed up on his good work, the best example was him letting Collins clear his head after the heavy knockdown in the 10th, had Eubank gone all out after he dropped him, he may have forced a referee stoppage, but he decided to try to bait Collins into a counter and showboat like an ass the rest of the round. They were about equally accurate throughout, with Collins outworking Eubank in the majority of teh rounds, and Collins landed th harder shots.
     
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  4. rorschach51

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    Larry Holmes vs Earnie Shavers II (September 28, 1979) (15 Rounds for the WBC Heavyweight Title)

    Round 1: 10-9 Holmes
    Round 2: 10-9 Holmes
    Round 3: 10-9 Holmes
    Round 4: 10-9 Holmes
    Round 5: 10-9 Holmes
    Round 6: 10-9 Holmes
    Round 7: 10-8 Shavers
    Round 8: 10-9 Holmes
    Round 9: 10-9 Holmes
    Round 10: 10-9 Holmes
    Round 11: TKO

    My Score: 98-91 Holmes (ATOS)

    Official Scores: (98-89 Holmes) (98-90 Holmes) (98-91 Holmes)
    Winner: By 11th round Technical Knockout to retain the Heavyweight Championship of the World, Larry Holmes.

    Though he got throughly dominated by Holmes, Shavers managed to make this a very exciting fight.

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  5. CST80

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    Miguel Cotto vs. Paul Malignaggi 12 Rounds @ Light Welterweight, June 10, 2006.

    Round 1 Cotto 10-9
    Headclash opens cut over Paulie's left eye, Paulie outworked Cotto, Cotto landed heavier.
    Round 2 Cotto 10-8 Cotto drops Paulie with hard left hook on the button, nails him with several more throughout.
    Round 3 Malignaggi 10-9 Paulie kept stuffing the jab in Cotto's face and defended well, blocking Cotto's shots.
    Round 4 Cotto 10-9 Paulie nonstop jabbing and landing rights, Cotto lands one left hook and erases everything.
    Round 5 Malignaggi 10-9 Non stop jabbing, from PM and landing combinations, smothered Cotto's offense.
    Round 6 Malignaggi 10-9 Very close, Cotto landed 3 big shots, Paulie took the rest of the round on activity.
    Round 7 Cotto 10-9 Pauiie takes first half with combos and jab, Cotto solidly takes second half with body work.
    Round 8 Malignaggi 10-9 Close, Cotto landed hard but partially blocked shots, PM landed nice combos and jabs.
    Round 9 Malignaggi 10-9 Paulie peppering him with combos, beating up a gassing Cotto, even rocked him late.
    Round 10 Malignaggi 10-9 Close, Cotto was smothered, held, Paulie landing one twos, and stiff jabs to take it.
    Round 11 Cotto 10-9 An argument could be made for Paulie in this one too, Cotto rocked him a few times early.
    Round 12 Cotto 10-9 PM held a lot, while bleeding from every orifice, Cotto going to body and head for the kill.

    114-113 Cotto


    I thought it was ridiculously close at the time, even though I didn't officially score it, I thought it was drawish and I haven't seen it since, well... I stand by my original assessment.:lol: Quite frankly an argument could be made that Paulie may have nicked it by a round, regardless, the knockdown made the difference on my card. Paulie fought a tactically brilliant fight, giving Cotto a ton of lateral movement away from his left hook, the majority of body shots Cotto landed was to his back, which do not count, he rolled with or slipped many others. He smothered, held and consistently broke the rhythm of Cotto, and without the early knockdown the broken jaw and cuts over his left eye, Paulie would have probably won this walking away. But the judges probably wouldn't have given it to him anyway.
     
  6. CST80

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    Vassiliy Jirov vs. James Toney 12 Rounds @ Cruiserweight, April 26, 2003.

    Round 1 Toney 10-9
    James edges close one with a few heavy straight right counters.
    Round 2 Jirov 10-9 Jirov set a blistering pace and outworked him from start to finish.
    Round 3 Toney 10-9 James gets hit in the balls, Jirov gets warning, becomes reluctant, James lands counters.
    Round 4 Jirov 10-9 Aside from a few hard rights, all Jirov, who set a furious pace again.
    Round 5 Toney 10-9 Toney landed beautiful counters rocking Jirov back several times.
    Round 6 Toney 10-9 Jirov's relentlessness almost edged it, but Toney's counters were more effective.
    Round 7 Toney 10-9 Non stop volume from Jirov, but the counter straight rights and right hooks edged it Toney.
    Round 8 9-9 Jirov docked a point for low blow, comes back walks through several bombs, outworks Toney.
    Round 9 Jirov 10-9 Toney is starting to gas, still landing clean counters, but Jirov is touching him everywhere.
    Round 10 Toney 10-9 James dominates first two rocking Jirov several times, Jirov closes fairly well.
    Round 11 Jirov 10-9 Jirov while getting countered non stop, still managed to nick it by outworking and hurting JT.
    Round 12 Toney 10-8 One of the greatest rounds of all time, VJ out on his feet for 2 minutes finally goes down.

    115-111 Toney

    Perhaps one of my favorite matches, its an absolute masterpiece of violence. Although I didn't score it at the time, still holds up brutally well. Will/skill vs. skill/will, Jirov never takes a step back in spite of eating counters almost non stop, never stops throwing. Toney's defense was still top notch, in spite of Jirov penetrating it more than most. The last 3 rounds are absolutely brutal, with the barrage Jirov takes late in the 12th, the fact that he stood up to it was practically an inhuman feat. Brilliant match, that I was probably a little biased with in my scoring, that being said I love both fighters.
     
  7. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    I loved watching manny steward go crazy in the last round
     
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  8. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    If James Toney was as disciplined as he was talented, he would still be fighting.
     
  9. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    He is still fighting, and it's the saddest thing.
     
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  10. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    I think he is done now. Hope i am not wrong.
     
  11. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    I guess it has been about a year since his last fight. But the fight before that there was almost 2 years in between fights, so I hope you are right too, but you never know.
     
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  12. FrankinDallas

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    I'm always amazed at how much hate Paulie gets. Yeah I know he was a loud mouthed fast talking jerk early on but this fight should prove to anyone with two eyes that he was a determined and skilled fighter. Many boxers would have quit with the jaw damage that Cotto put on him and practically no one would have complained about it.
     
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    John Tate vs Gerrie Coetzee (October 20, 1979) (15 Rounds for the Vacant WBA Heavyweight Title)

    Round 1: 10-9 Coetzee (little to nothing done by either man, but what was thrown/landed was by Coetzee)
    Round 2: 10-9 Coetzee (much closer, still not a lot done, gave the round to the busier fighter even though they landed about the same)
    Round 3: 10-9 Coetzee (I can't believe how little is being done, much clearer round, but this is a far cry from Holmes vs Shavers II)
    Round 4: 10-9 Tate (first round Tate looked like he tried to win, and did more than the other guy)
    Round 5: 10-9 Tate
    Round 6: 10-9 Tate
    Round 7: 10-9 Coetzee
    Round 8: 10-9 Tate
    Round 9: 10-9 Tate
    Round 10: 10-9 Tate
    Round 11: 10-9 Tate
    Round 12: 10-9 Tate
    Round 13: 10-9 Tate
    Round 14: 10-9 Tate
    Round 15: 10-9 Tate

    MY Score: 146-139 Tate

    Official Scores: (147-142 Tate) (148-145 Tate) (147-144 Tate)
    Winner: By Unanimous Decision to win the vacant WBA Heavyweight Championship, "Big" John Tate.

    Tate boxed well, but the most impressive part about his winning the title is as a black man fighting a white South African in South Africa and winning by comfortable decision. He did it dirty too, twice hitting (or swinging at) Coetzee after he had slipped to the mat, shoulder butting, & lacing whenever possible. 81,000+ people, and it sounded like a FS1 card. Tate would go on to lose the title in his next fight by 15th round knockout too Mike Weaver, in a fight he was comfortably winning on the cards. Then would follow that up by getting knocked out by Trevor Berbick in the 9th round, and would never fight for a title again.

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    Alexis Arguello vs "School Boy" Bobby Chacon (November 16, 1979) (15 Rounds for the WBC Super Featherweight Title)

    Round 1: 10-9 Chacon
    Round 2: 10-9 Arguello
    Round 3: 10-9 Chacon
    Round 4: 10-9 Chacon
    Round 5: 10-9 Chacon
    Round 6: 10-9 Arguello
    Round 7: 10-8 Arguello (RTD)

    My Score: 66-66 (ATOS)

    Official Scores: (67-66 Chacon) (67-66 Arguello) (67-66 Chacon)
    Winner: By 7th round Referees Technical Decision to retain the Super Featerweight Championship of the World, Alexis Arguello.

    Chacon fought a brilliant fight, he countered beautifully and knew just when to unload flurries of combos. He must have had Alexis' timing perfectly from the start. I never liked Bobby Chacon, I always thought he was gifted quite a few favorable decisions in Cali. But credit where credit is due, he took it too Arguello hard, and for 5 rounds looked like he was gonna give Alexis a boxing lesson and a loss. Arguello righted the ship in the 6th, and took control in the 7th knocking Chacon silly, and opening a big cut over Chacon's eye in the process which led to the stoppage. But good fight.

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  15. ForemanJab

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    David Tua vs Chris Byrd - IBF HW title eliminator 18/08/01

    Round 1: 10-9 Tua
    Round 2: 10-9 Byrd
    Round 3: 10-9 Tua
    Round 4: 10-9 Tua
    Round 5: 10-9 Byrd
    Round 6: 10-9 Tua
    Round 7: 10-9 Byrd
    Round 8: 10-9 Byrd
    Round 9: 10-9 Byrd
    Round 10: 10-9 Byrd
    Round 11: 10-9 Tua
    Round 12: 10-9 Tua

    114-114 Draw

    Very good fight and not anywhere close to the one sided drubbing that many who probably never watched the fight seem to claim.

    This was without question the best, sharpest and most elusive version of Byrd to ever step in a prize ring. He would’ve given any HW in the world at the time a hell of a fight. He also learned from the Ibeabuchi loss to not stay on the ropes.

    Tua also came into the fight in great shape, much improved from the Lewis fight. He used a more steady 2 fisted attack than I can recall seeing from him.

    Referee Jay Nady was unfairly on Tua’s case for most of the fight, he kept warning Tua for landing perfectly legal body punches.

    Early on Tua was effective going to work on Byrd’s ribcage and landing some good hooks with Byrd on the ropes. Byrd turned it around midway through the fight beating Tua to the punch and outlanding him by a significant margin, esp the 8th round. Very rare to see Byrd being that aggressive. Tua clearly won the last 2 rounds as Byrd took them off mostly just defending while Tua came on strong.

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