CST80's Random Boxing Scorecards For Modern & Classic Matches Depot/Discussion Thread.

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  1. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Copy paste from one of my posts in the classic scoring thread.

    Eder Jofre VS Fighting Harada II
    1966

    Harada - Jofre

    RD1 - 9-10 Jofre (Nice body blows from Jofre)
    RD2 9-10 Jofre
    RD3 10-9 Harada (Harada came to life in this round!)
    RD4 9-10 Jofre (Close, almost scored 10-10)
    RD5 10-9 Harada (Brilliant movement from Harada in this round)
    RD6 10-9 Harada
    RD7 9-9 Harada (harada had point taken for butting)
    RD8 10-9 Harada
    RD9 10-9 Harada (Close)
    RD10 9-10 Jofre
    RD11 10-9 Harada
    RD12 9-10 Jofre
    RD13 10-9 Harada
    RD14 10-9 Harada
    RD15 10-9 Harada

    MY TOTAL:
    144 HARADA
    140 JOFRE

    OFFICIAL SCORES (5 point must)
    Referee: Nick Pope 68-69
    Judge: Hiroyuki Tezaki 68-71
    Judge: Takeo Ugo 69-71

    Notes:
    I scored using ten point must system as it is the method I am most familiar with.
    I found this quite a hard bout to score.
    Quite a few shots from Harada strayed very low. Lots of butting and head clashing also.
    Harada's right hand to the body is a beautiful shot.
    Harada has a very under rated defense.
    Jofre has extremely powerful and punishing body blows, but was too inconsistent in application.
    Jofre also gave up dominant positions to Harada, and was pushed around on the ropes frequently.
     
  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    @roughdiamond You can add videos to your posts if you want to.
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  3. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    Yunier Dorticos vs Andrew Tabiti (June 15, 2019) (12 Rounds World Boxing Super Series Crusierweight Semi-Finals & the Vacant IBF Crusierweight Title)

    Round 1: 10-9 Dorticos
    Round 2: 10-9 Dorticos
    Round 3: 10-9 Tabiti
    Round 4: 10-9 Tabiti
    Round 5: 10-9 Dorticos
    Round 6: 10-8 Dorticos
    Round 7: 10-9 Tabiti (close)
    Round 8: 10-9 Tabiti (close)
    Round 9: 10-9 Dorticos



    My Score: (86-84 Dorticos ATOC)

    Official Scores: (N/A)
    Winner: By 10th round Knockout to win the Vacant IBF Crusierweight Title, Yunier Dorticos

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  4. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    Murat Gassiev vs Yunier Dorticos (February 3, 2018) (12 Rounds World Boxing Super Series Crusierweight Semi-Finals & The IBF & WBA Cruiserweight Titles)

    Round 1: 10-9 Dorticos
    Round 2: 10-9 Gassiev
    Round 3: 10-9 Dorticos
    Round 4: 10-9 Dorticos
    Round 5: 10-9 Gassiev
    Round 6: 10-9 Gassiev
    Round 7: 10-9 Gassiev
    Round 8: 10-9 Gassiev
    Round 9: 10-9 Gassiev
    Round 10: 10-9 Gassiev
    Round 11: 10-9 Gassiev
    Round 12: TKO

    My Score: (107-102 Gassiev ATOS)

    Official Scores: (106-103 x 2 Gassiev) (104-103 Gassiev)
    Winner: By 12th round Technical Knockout and New Unified WBA & IBF Cruiserweight Champion, Murat Gassiev.


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    Great fight!

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  5. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    Zora Folley vs Oscar Bonavena (February 25, 1965) (10 Rounds Heavyweights)

    Round 1: 10-9 Folley
    Round 2: 10-9 Folley
    Round 3: 10-9 Bonavena
    Round 4: 10-9 Folley
    Round 5: 10-9 Folley
    Round 6: 10-9 Bonavena
    Round 7: 10-9 Folley
    Round 8: 10-8 Folley
    Round 9: 10-9 Folley
    Round 10: 10-9 Folley

    My Score: (98-91 Folley)

    Official Scores: (9-1 Folley) (9-1 Folley)
    Winner: By Unanimous Decision, Zora Folley.


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  6. rorschach51

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    Bob Foster vs Ernie Terrell (July 10, 1964) (10 Rounds Heavyweights)

    Round 1: 10-9 Foster
    Round 2: 10-9 Terrell
    Round 3: 10-9 Foster
    Round 4: 10-9 Foster
    Round 5: 9-9 Terrell
    Round 6: 10-9 Terrell
    Round 7: KO

    My Score: (57-56 Foster ATOS)

    Official Scores: (N/A)
    Winner: By 7th round knock out, Ernie Terrell.


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  7. rorschach51

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    Pascual Perez vs Pone Kingpetch I (April 16, 1960) (15 Rounds for the World Flyweight Championship)

    Round 1: 10-9 Kingpetch
    Round 2: 10-9 Perez
    Round 3: 10-9 Kingpetch
    Round 4: 10-9 Kingpetch
    Round 5: 10-9 Kingpetch
    Round 6: 10-9 Perez
    Round 7: 10-9 Kingpetch
    Round 8: 10-9 Perez
    Round 9: 10-9 Perez
    Round 10: 10-9 Kingpetch
    Round 11: 10-9 Kingpetch
    Round 12: 10-9 Kingpetch
    Round 13: 10-9 Kingpetch
    Round 14: 10-9 Perez
    Round 15: 10-9 Perez

    My Score: (144-141 Kingpetch)

    Official Scores: (148-137 Kingpetch) (145-143 Perez) (146-140 Kingpetch)
    Winner: By Split Decision to win the Flyweight Championship of the World, Pone Kingpetch.

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  8. rorschach51

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    Eder Jofre vs Jose Medel (August 18, 1960) (12 Rounds Bantamweights)

    Round 1: 10-9 Jofre
    Round 2: 10-9 Jofre
    Round 3: 10-9 Medel
    Round 4: 10-9 Jofre
    Round 5: 10-9 Jofre
    Round 6: J10-9 Medel
    Round 7: 10-9 Jofre
    Round 8: 10-9 Medel
    Round 9: 10-9 Medel
    Round 10: KO

    My Score: (86-85 Jofre ATOS)

    Official Scores: (97-93 x 2 Jofre) (96-90 Jofre)
    Winner: By 10th round Knockout, Eder Jofre.


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  9. rorschach51

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    Eder Jofre vs Jose Medel II (September 11, 1962) (15 Rounds for the Vacant WBA Bantamweight Title)

    Round 1: 10-9 Jofre
    Round 2: 10-9 Jofre
    Round 3: 10-9 Jofre
    Round 4: 10-9 Jofre
    Round 5: 10-8 Jofre
    Round 6: KO


    My Score: (50-44 Jofre ATOS)

    Official Scores: (N/A)
    Winner: By 6th Round Knockout to win the Vacant WBA Bantamweight Title, Eder Jofre.


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  10. rorschach51

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    Pone Kingpetch vs Pascual Perez II (September 22, 1960) (15 Rounds for the World Flyweight Championship)

    Round 1: 10-9 Kingpetch
    Round 2: 10-9 Kingpetch
    Round 3: 10-9 Perez
    Round 4: 10-9 Kingpetch
    Round 5: 10-9 Kingpetch
    Round 6: 10-9 Kingpetch
    Round 7: 10-9 Kingpetch
    Round 8: TKO

    My Score: (69-64 Kingpetch ATOS)

    Official Scores: (9-2 Kingpetch) (6-2 Kingpetch) (5-2 Kingpetch)
    Winner: By 8th round Technical Knockout to retain the Flyweight Championship of the World, Pone Kingpetch.


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  11. rorschach51

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    Pone Kingpetch vs Kyo Noguchi (May 30, 1962) (15 Rounds for the World Flyweight Championship)

    Round 1: 10-9 Noguchi
    Round 2: 10-9 Kingpetch
    Round 3: 10-9 Kingpetch
    Round 4: 10-9 Noguchi
    Round 5: 10-9 Noguchi
    Round 6: 10-9 Kingpetch
    Round 7: 10-9 Kingpetch
    Round 8: 10-9 Kingpetch
    Round 9: 10-9 Kingpetch
    Round 10: 10-9 Kingpetch
    Round 11: 10-9 Kingpetch
    Round 12: 10-9 Kingpetch
    Round 13: 10-9 Kingpetch
    Round 14: 10-9 Noguchi
    Round 15: 10-9 Kingpetch

    My Score: (146-139 Kingpetch)

    Official Scores: (148-136 Kingpetch) (146-138 x 2 Kingpetch)
    Winner: By Unanimous Decision to retain the Flyweight Championship of the World Pone Kingpetch.


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  12. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That fight was stolen from Randall , probably the minute Don King made the match. Chavez was on his way to being stopped when he quit. I had Frankie up 77-74
     
  13. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Canelo vs GGG

    1. GGG 10-9 (GGG 10-9)
    Close round, I thought GGGs was harder, landing more and was more dominant than Canelo's. Nothing really heavy landed.

    2. Even 19-19 (Canelo 10-9)
    Canelo showed some very nice head movement, landed a really nice check hook to GGGs head early on and used his speed to pull the round. GGG showed some good defence as well, people who say he's very easy to hit don't know what they're talking about. Canelo landed some good body shots which GGG seemed to neglect.

    3. Even 29-29 (Even 10-10)
    Very close round could go either way, both landed good jabs with little heavy artillery, GGG landed more but also missed more. Good round for both.

    4. GGG 39-38 (GGG 10-9)
    Another very close round, a great round to watch. GGG clearly did better in the first half of the round but Canelo started to do his thing and slowly pulled back the second half, could be an even round but I don't like giving them and GGG was more dominant in the first half than Canelo was in the second. GGG did seem to forget how to use his feet in the exchanges

    5. Even 48-48 (Canelo 10-9)
    Canelo landed more jabs and slipped more punches in the first half of the round, he was clearly the busier puncher and hit some good shots to the body, GGG came back mid way through the round and remembered he had a right hand. He landed a couple rights to Canelo's temple and ear as well as upping his jab rate but didn't do enough to win the round imo.

    6. Canelo 58-57 (Canelo 10-9)
    Excellent showing from Canelo, textbook example of how to merge offense with defence. Great head movement and looked like a really fluid fighter. He made GGG miss alot and landed lots of hooks, upstairs and down, and popped the jab at will, clear Canelo round and the clearest round of the fight.

    7. Canelo 68-67 (Even 10-10)
    Canelo was slipping punches and landing some very nice leather in the first minute but GGGs jab was better whenever there were no exchanges. Canelo was clearly winning the exchanges and landed a really nice overhand right but then took a minute off and it let GGGs jab take over, something like Del a Hoya-Quartey. Could go either way.

    8. Canelo 78-76 (Canelo 10-9)
    Great round to watch, Canelo was throwing with bad intentions and so was Golovkin. Both men landed some real hard punches, Canelo got the better of the exchanges again but GGG did very well and roughed Canelo up as well. GGGs jab was dominant whilst not brawling.
    Story of the fight.

    9. Canelo 87-86 (GGG 10-9)
    Good round, GGG landed some excellent combinations and Canelo looked tired, he lost based on activity if nothing else, the pace he set earlier on seemed to catch up with him before it did Golovkin. So he just stopped throwing and moving and just took some heavy shots. When he was throwing he still looked very able but GGG clearly won.

    10. Even 96-96 (GGG 10-9)
    Canelo showed some incredible head movement here. He didn't land as much as GGG but he made Golovkin miss more. Close round based on GGGs activity and Canelo's slowing down in the last minute, that's why I think GGG nicked it, but I'd have no problem with it going either way. GGG landed some nice combinations and the best punch of the round.

    11. GGG 106-105 (GGG 10-9)
    Canelo for the first part of the round didn't do anything. He was slow and showed no willingness to punch, defend or even move. In the second half of the round he came back and landed some good shots but GGG was also landing good shots at the same time. Close but clear GGG round.

    12.
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    (Canelo 10-9)
    What a showing. Great round. Huge respect for the pair and between the pair. Great fight.

    Canelo won the round clearly, he landed better punches and slipped better punches, he clearly had a second Wind and showed heart and grit he managed to cut GGG. GGG showed a good jab still even in the 12th.


    Notes

    Commentators were bias as **** and annoying.

    GGGs footwork was pretty poor considering how he should've approached the match up. He should've been rough, pushy and cutting off the ring, he wasn't and showed Canelo too much respect. He clearly was very well conditioned and was showing alot of power in his punches.

    Canelo has clearly improved his stamina and his movement is coming on nicely. His head movement whilst tired was brilliant in the tenth. I don't like him but the look of happiness on his face and the scream when Micheal said AND THE NEW and in the Kellerman interview shouted VIVA LA MÉXICO really warmed my heart.

    As Kevin Kelly said, it's could go either way and that no matter what the scorecards would be a mess.

    Both men have given us a great fight, which I thought noone won, and both will go down as modern day greats and get in the HOF. Bring on the third
     
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  14. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Kevin Kelly not wrong about it could go either way but he's also wrong as any close fight is always gonna go to Canelo.Not to say he didn't deserve it
     
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  15. rorschach51

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    Pone Kingpetch vs Fighting Harada 1 (October 10, 1962) (15 Rounds for the WBA (Lineal) Flyweight Title

    Round 1: 10-9 Harada
    Round 2: 10-9 Harada
    Round 3: 10-9 Harada
    Round 4: 10-9 Harada
    Round 5: 10-9 Harada
    Round 6: 10-9 Harada
    Round 7: 10-9 Harada
    Round 8: 10-9 Harada
    Round 9: 10-9 Harada
    Round 10: 10-9 Harada
    Round 11: KO

    My Score: (100-90 Harada ATOS)

    Official Scores: (50-38 Harada) (49-41 Harada) (49-46 Harada)
    Winner: By 11th round Knockout to win the WBA (Lineal) Flyweight Championship of the World, Fighting Harada.

    Harada was robbed of his newly won Lineal Flyweight Championship 3 months later when the rematch took place in Thailand. The film is incomplete so I wont score it here, but of the 12 rounds available to watch online Pone maybe won 2 of those (I scored it 118-110 with rounds 4,5 & 11 not being available.) What I found more curious then the blatant robbery of the world title from Harada, was Nat Fleischer who was the founder of Ring Magazine & was still editor att scored this fight as a judge, and gave the fight to Kingpetch by a crazy 4 points (71-67 Kingpetch after 15 rounds of boxing.) Fleischer who reffed & was a regular judge and was considered by many as the world’s most influential boxing authority and historian during his day was blind as a bat or took a payoff on this day though, because Ray Charles could have scored the rematch. A definite asterisk in a otherwise long & storied career.

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