Cuevas and his winning streak...

boxrec hero! hes got stars in his eyyyes .

boxrec hero!.. he took one website!

boxrec hero! .. he took one website!

boxrec hero! .. he'll come aliiive !

 

Yeah, it was a good streak. Shame that the rest of his career was disgraceful.

 

He does hold the record for Most Consecutive Title defenses won by Knockout (Ten). Considering all of the great Welterweight Champions, That is nothing to sneeze at! Pus a couple of Broken jaws along the way!

 

so??? great numbers.........but what about substance????

remember guys like old buck smith did great numbers.........but dont call the hall for that!!!

look at the fighters:angel espada was ordinary. guys like scott clark were bums.
miguel angel campanino.......an argie with great numbers, but who did he beat?????
billy buckus was shot shitless.

pete ranzany was probably the best opponent.

so great numbers in other words mean jack ****.

 

Not necessarily, although I agree with you to an extent. Pipino`s opponents during his title reign weren`t HOF`ers, but they weren`t all bums either and he could only fight what was put in front of him. Ten consecutive knockout victory`s in title fights is nothing to sneeze at unless your opponents were completely inept, which in Pipinos case they weren`t. Add the fact that the manner in which he dispatched them was usually in devastating fashion and you have yourself a HOFer candidate.

Cuevas wasn`t a great fighter per se, but I do think on his best night he would be competitive with just about anyone and I don`t see too many fomer welterweight champions before and after Cuevas who could have dispatched his opponents during his title reign in the same devastating fashion and early the way he did. Pipino was exciting, packed and al-time great punch in his left hook and actually won and defended his title 11 times, ten by KO... to me that is enough to get him into the HOF.

 

but is that enough?? you cant forget that when he came up against a great fighter..........he choked.

if he had given hearns any type of fight, i would be temped to agree with you on the hof opinion.

but he got blown away as if he were a clubfighter.

and while he was exciting, that alone doesnt mean much.

his opponents were also somewhat suitable for his style. before hearns, his opponents were usually just mediocre punchers at best.
that is why imo he was able to just walk in and wing hooks..........that is easy if aint got much firepower coming back at you.

so in my opinion, his opponents had alot to do with him looking so good.

when he faced a puncher, he couldnt fight his usual style. and got blown away like a cubcake.

so had he at least blow away some good hitters, like say simon brown, tyrone trice, vernon forrest, yori boy campas, james page, vernon forrest, kermit cintron etc.......my opinion may be different.

and that is why i doubt he would have been competative with most of the great welter champs. lots would have just walked right through him.

all in all, he was a very good fighter. but his number of title defenses and his spectacular wins had alot to do with matchmaking and not so much with his ability.

 

To start of with looking at boxrec I reckon it is only 515 wins combined in the 13 fights. Tommy Loughran is up there with only 5 defences; Marciano beats them numbers with his six defences; Joe Louis first 13 opponents in World Championship fights had a combined 775 wins... I suspect there are many more who can compete with Cuevas numbers.

 

3 of those 10 knockouts were against Espada. I wonder how Espada got so many opportunities in such a short time