Cung Le talking 3 fight deal with UFC (possible anderson silva match up ? )

I'm glad you have so much influence over how it would turn out.

 

I don't. I'm just saying how confident i am that Lawler would beat him. He's too far past it.

 

I just don't see Lawler as having the right style to defeat Shamrock. Lawler is a better class of fighter than is Baroni, but I think he poses a similar style match-up. I think Shamrock will have to use more caution than against Baroni, but I believe the outcome will be the same.

 

Well, Lawler may have a similar style in that he just wants to stand and bang but, Lawler arguably hits harder and has a better chin. I don't think Shamrock has the power to KO Lawler and Lawler is simply a better stand up fighter to boot. The only way Shamrock would win is if he took him to the ground which he doesn't seem to want (or be able) to do at this stage in his career. I think its a similar case to where Matt Hughes is at. He doesn't have good stand-up and he's too old and slow to be able to get the younger guys to the ground where he needs to be.

 

The only person that anderson sylva faces like Le is Lyota machida. I think that Cung le has a chance of beating Anderson sylva he is a little more explosive than sylva I think that anderson will try to keep it standing which plays into le's strength so it will be a good fight i still pick sylva but you never know.

 

The only person that anderson sylva faces like Le is Lyota machida. I think that Cung le has a chance of beating Anderson sylva he is a little more explosive than sylva I think that anderson will try to keep it standing which plays into le's strength so it will be a good fight i still pick sylva but you never know.

 

I think that he is more explosive because of his wrestling ability if he would have gone to an ncaa school he would have been all-american potential his take downs could be as good as Koscheks. He also displays a james toney type of Defence. in his stand up.

 

I'm not going to argue Shamrock is not getting old, he is. I just don't think he has lost a whole lot at this point.

As far as Lawler's being a better striker is concerned, I'm not so sure that is the case. Lawler may have faster hands, and he is a bit more explosive; Frank appears to have better technique and more poise. Frank also has a solid chin.

As far as takedowns are concerned, there are a few things to consider about his last few fights. Renzo is a great grappler, Shamrock is simply good. He looked lost against Gracie, and really needed to keep that fight standing in order to win. Shamrock had been bragging about his punching ability before the fight with Baroni, and Baroni wasn't skilled enough to compete witeh him standing. Against Le, I believe Frank was afraid of being thrown.

I think if Frank is facing someone he really feels he can't stand with, you'll see some takedown attempts.

 

I don't remember seeing many takedowns against Le. Surely he didn't think he could stand with Cung Le with his extensive background in San Shou, and believe he would come out on top. That's another thing i doubt with Frank. His noggin. His gameplan against Le was suicidal. I wonder if that was a one off or he is that over-confident.

 

He tried a few times to take le down but failed

 

Actually, going into the fight he claimed he was going to beat Cung Le standing up. The commentators make reference to this claim during the fight.

I've heard some mention that Frank has trained with Le in the past, and fought this way for two reasons. The first is that he really did feel confident striking with Le because of these sessions. I also heard that he was unable to take Le down in these sessions, and was thrown on several occasions.

 

Shamrock will own Lawler - probably easier than Cung Le will. Cung will take a few rounds to pick Lawler apart while Frank will just jump on him and beat the dog **** out of him until he can lock in a submission. Lawler needs to keep shining that belt as long as he can because if he winds up facing either of those guys he will lose it.

 

Lawler is a better stand up fighter? How? Robbie might be a better puncher but comparing all around striking abilities Shamrock is much more versed than Lawler.

Shamrock has excellent stand up game and sharp submissions. How in the world does that compare to the one dimiensional Hughes? If you mean Shamrock is getting old and the young fighters are catching up and threatening to leave him behind - then yes that is comparable to Hughes' situation.

It's too bad that Frank insists on fighting ken Shamrock next because he needs to jump back into the middleweight mix.

 

Next to Fedor-Couture a Silva vs Le fight is the biggest MMA fight ever. I would say its an even up fight.

 

We have some utterly delusional members
No one outside of the hardcore know who Le is. Le is a nobody who would get knocked out in 1 round by Silva.