Cunningham rips Haye

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  1. Ethan Trims

    Ethan Trims Active Member Full Member

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    have fun at davidhayeland.com.

    and take arran with you.
     
  2. Arran

    Arran Boxing Junkie banned

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    Im staying, I like to laugh at you deluded americans, remember when I created the thread ''Calzaghe will annihilate Lacy'' and you deluded americans laughed, well Ill say it again now, Cunningham would get annihilated by Haye! Not that the fight will happen as he is a nobody in his own country yet alone Europe according to the americans on the thread.
     
  3. jc

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    If Haye was a comfortable 200lber he would obviously have to fight Steve Cunningham at some point. but he simply isnt, he is going after the big fish, he is already undisputed champion at Cruiser and has publicly stated Enzo will be his last cruiserweight fight. In fact if he fought Rahman instead of enzo nobody would have got the arse about it!

    When Haye beats Enzo I dont think Cunningham will be worth the time nor the effort.

    If Enzo beats Haye on Saturday though, I would expect a Enzo - Cunningham fight to be talked about sometime down the road.

    Its funny that Cunningham calls out the man moving to heavyweight and not the natural Cruiser...
     
  4. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Not really sure how you don't think you're proving my point.

    Dawson doesn't leave the US and beats some 'washed up Eurobum' and is feted, Haye beats the number one in his division in his own backyard and 'hasn't fought anyone'.

    Haye not skilled? How many of his fights and which are you basing this on, out of interest?
     
  5. kurt2006

    kurt2006 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Here we go again.

    USS is **** all. He looked **** against Huck. No need for Haye to fight a paper champ.
     
  6. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Maybe you should read it again.

    Maybe you should read it again when you're sober.

    :rofl
     
  7. Ethan Trims

    Ethan Trims Active Member Full Member

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    Naw it was priceless cobbler, you giving an example of how americans overate fighters by using a Haye-Ali analogy. Thanks for the amusement buddy.

    Ill reread it for laughs.:lol:
     
  8. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Itll be a step backwards, or a step to the side at best.

    As soon as a champion gets some deserved hype there will be a small selection of stubborn kill joys picking any random belt holder to upset the name, and not because they believe that said belt holder is that great or that they are even a fan of that belt holder, or in some cases ever seen him fight, but just because they choose to go against the majority.

    To put it in perspective, not everbody thought Ali or Robinson were that good, not everbody thought The Beatles or Frank Sinatra were that good, not everybody thought the invention of the car was that good nor the lean mean fat reducing grilling machine, yet they all were...













    And before i get jumped on, no i dont think Haye will be as great as Muhammad Ali, but my point still stands.
     
  9. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    The question I have is, why now? Steve's not a dumb man by any stretch of the imagination. If he knew he wanted a piece of Haye, why not call him out earlier, or wait until after the Haye-Macca fight? It's not as if he didn't know Haye's days at Cruiser were numbered.

    Yet Cunningham waits until right before Haye's (most likely) final CW fight to jump in and call him out, as if he'd been trying all along? It's a genius plan on USS's behalf to give the public the impression that he's being ducked, but I'm not buying it. It should work in drumming up more interest for himself up, though.
     
  10. Cobbler

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    Enjoy. Hopefully this time you'll notice that I was saying that If Haye were American he would be getting compared to Ali and not actually doing that myself.

    Or maybe you're not that smart and you won't notice.
     
  11. Ethan Trims

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    You were comparing Haye to Ali, you just didnt do it directly. You used an American fighter(Ali) as a mark of greatness, and then the point of your comment was to illustrate that Americans overate fighters.

    Ill let it slide though, just think next time.
     
  12. Hawks28

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    as an unbiased observer, I actually think Cunningham makes some decent points. I do think Haye would beat him if they did meet in the ring in the near future though.
     
  13. emanuel_augustus

    emanuel_augustus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Are you serious? I like Macca, but comparing their resumes is silly.

    Cunningham has wins over Guillermo Jones (should have been world champ), Sebastiaan Rothmann (world title challenger), Wlodarcyzk (world champ), and Huck (golden boy who was supposed to easily beat him).

    Those are all better wins than beating a shot Braithwaite.

    Still, I think Maccarinelli has a good shot at beating Haye, but to say he's better than Cunningham by opposition comparison is absurd.

    I would love to see Cunningham/Macca if he beats Haye. Excellent unification bout with a good style contrast.
     
  14. andyZOR

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    Indeed.

    Cunningham has the best resume in the Cruiserweight division.
     
  15. emanuel_augustus

    emanuel_augustus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Steve has said all along he'd unify. Now is the perfect time. If Haye beats Maccarinelli, Cunningham says, hey Haye :)p), make 200 pounds one more time and unify all three of those belts, something that would put Haye up there with Holyfield.

    That is a fight that could sell here in the states, especially if this Saturday's fight on Showtime is a good one. Makes good sense for Haye because he would get more American exposure while completely unifying a divisional title, something that is rare to do.

    Then you make your move to heavyweight if you want (although I don't think Haye will win a heavyweight title.)