current alexander povetkin vs prime ike ibeabuchi

I somewhat agree with you on Wlad vs the greats, but I'm just not sure Ike has the style to beat him. Ike was no outboxer, and it took him a fair bit of time to figure out Byrd(as has been said), a fighter with no power and a lesser offensive arsenal to hold him off than Wlad has. I do agree though, that Wlad is not all he's cracked up to be, but even so, style-wise this fight's a dilemma. I favor Wlad based on styles, but based on the quality of the fighter implying the styles, I may favor Ike. Tough call for me, that's why I'm open to suggestions on this one.

 

I don't know if I've just been up too long or what, but I'm sorry I can't really offer much insight on this one guys. Usually I have little trouble analyzing styles, but with these guys there were(and are) too many questions.

But I think I'm gonna head off to bed, take care.

 

Povetkins resume for one who's had only 15 fights is more than steller added to the fact that he's one of the greatest amateurs to ever turn pro.Povetkins never been knocked down or even stunned as far as i know and he arguably faced more danderous foes in his amateur days than pro so far.Islam Timursiev the current top ranked amateur super heavy hits harder than Ibeabuchi by my rekonning and Povetkin took his best in close quatre exchanges which makes a mockery of those claims of an Ibeabuchi blow out.

 

I don't think Ike's style matters that much against Wlad. By simply being very active and making Wlad work hard every round, Ike would be able to gas Wlad and take him out. He had the stamina and chin to do it. He had the power and physical strength to be effective against Wlad without landing clean shots on him.. just being active. In the later rounds, Ike would be able to land some bombs on Klitschko when he's tired as hell. The only way I see Wlad winning is if he fought an extremely smart tactical fight where he potshotted and wasted as little energy as possible to win enough rounds to get a decision. But I don't think Wlad is capable of fighting like that and Ike would force him to be very active.

 

Ike falls under could of, should of but didn't, not his fault, but he was mad. Povetkin looks solid enough and for the moment you would have to give him the edge, just because he would be the sane one in the ring.

Povetkin WU12 (8-4)

 

Povetkins resume for one who's had only 15 fights is more than steller added to the fact that he's one of the greatest amateurs to ever turn pro.Povetkins never been knocked down or even stunned as far as i know and he arguably faced more danderous foes in his amateur days than pro so far.Islam Timursiev the current top ranked amateur super heavy hits harder than Ibeabuchi by my rekonning and Povetkin took his best in close quatre exchanges which makes a mockery of those claims of an Ibeabuchi blow out.

 

You can't compare getting hit by Timurziev with headgear for a few rounds and getting hit by Ibeabuchi for 12. I believe Povetkin has a great chin and this would actually be a pretty close fight, but we don't know enough about Povetkin yet. I would pick the current version of him over any HW today, but not prime Ibeabuchi.

Another thing to worry about in this kind of matchup is Povetkin's skin. It's something I worry about a lot when thinking about his future if he doesn't improve his defense. He gets cut and his face swells up so damn easily. In a 12 round war with someone like Ike I can't imagine how his face would look like after the fight.

 

The key to me in this fight is distance. Ike would need to get in close and I think he had the ability to, although it's no sure thing considering he never faced a tall/athletic super heavyweight with a jab like Wladimir's.

Something I look to is the way Samuel Peter troubled Wladimir with his brute strength, power, and chin. He was able to close the distance at times and even counter Wladimir's jab from long range with overhand rights. Compared to Peter, Ike had superior head movement, footwork, and accuracy so I think he could have gotten in close and hurt him. However, while Ike was more methodical and calculated in his attack than Peter and Brewster, this may not work in his favor. As you pointed out, wilder sluggers with wider punchers who forced their way inside got to Wladimir. He might frusturate Ike and pick him off with jabs from the outside, survive/clinch through some rough spots, and win a decision.

Interesting fight and one I honestly wouldn't feel comfortable betting on, but if I had to favor somebody, it would be Ike by a slight margin based off of his stamina/chin, Wladimir's vulnerabilities against big punchers (Sanders and Brewster), and the trouble Peter gave him.

 

ike with a brutal ko in the 5th...

 

Ike showed great mental focus and determination against Tua and Byrd. He didn't fight like he was a paranoid-schizophrenic even if his outside-of-the-ring behavior suggested he was one.

 

He walked though Tua's left hooks, that is not the behavior of a person with what is presumed a normal mental make-up.

Ike was a throw back to the freaks of the turn of the century, like your Joe Grimm's; he should never of been aloud in the ring with treatment for his condition first.

 

Ibeabuchi by TKO

 

Ibeabuchi had mad skills, would stop Povetkin.

 

Ike had great chin, good punch, and great stamina. His punch output was insane, and most of it were power punches. No way Povetkin lasts 12 rounds, he has neither the defence of prime Byrd neither his chin (and even that didn't help Byrd against Ike).

While Povetkin had fought much better oposition than most of nowadays HW during first 15 fights, the opponents are not even close to Ike. Byrd and Donald are good names at this stage of career, but they were also old, way past prime and it didn't even look like they tried to win.

I am not trying to make Ike better than he was. He was still very crude and I would easily favour Lewis or Holyfield over him. But Povetkin :shock: ? No way.

 

povetkin has'nt peaked yet.at his current level against the best we've seen from ibeabuchi, ibeabuchi knocks povetkin out.