Current and Former Pro Fighters that had Canelo winning the fight

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  1. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Abel states between 3:00-5:00

    -Golovkin perhaps fought the wrong fight.
    -Abel was exhorting GGG to do more. Says fighters think they are winning, so in the 10th round I told GGG he needes those rounds. We are behind on points. Winning two or the three rounds I felt we could win the fight.
    -Canelo didn't let us (win those rounds)
    -to say GGG is old is to take away from Canelo's great triumph
    -Also acknkwedges that GGG lost the 12th round at 7:20
     
  2. DynamicMoves

    DynamicMoves Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Winning 2 or 3 of the championship rounds he thought they could win the fight, GGG certainly won 2 on all 3 judge cards, and 3 on the last.
    A bit of a reach to say Sanchez gave the fight to Alvarez based on your bullet points.

    I'm open to changing my mind when evidence is shown, so far all you have are insults.



    Abel said, “I scored the fight even. I thought that the 12th round was the pivotal round. I said to Golovkin in the corner that I thought we were behind in about the 8th or 9th, and I told him I needed the rounds at the end. I thought it was even, but you know what? Canelo won, and that’s what’s important.”
     
  3. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't need you to change your mind and I didn't mean to hurt your feelings.
     
  4. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    I'm not discussing what the judges had and neither were you. We are discussing what Abel had. He said that in the 10th round he urged GGG to win two or three rounds because they were behind on points.

    Abel then goes on to say that Canelo didn't let them. Meaning didn't let them win those rounds. He then goes on to say that no one should say that GGG got old or was injured because that is taking away from Canelo's "great triumph".

    And for those who argue Canelo didn't win the 12th, Abel thought he did.
     
  5. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Nope he said he thought it was a draw but had no argument.....that's not saying Canelo won you little fibber
     
  6. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    I'm talking about this:
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  7. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    "Ya'll said Canelo ran and you ran" is a bizarre argument by RJJ.

    If GGG did what Canelo did in the first fight, why was it not scored a draw?


    Favorable scorecards for Canelo have now given his 3 W's and a D in four fights he could've lost.
     
  8. DoubleJ

    DoubleJ Active Member Full Member

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    I had Canelo 7-5 with the distinct possibility of a draw. I'm amazed at how many people are upset over the decision and missing out on the fact it was a tremendous fight.

    Both men went to war that night, neither established any semblance of dominance over the other, and I was insanely entertained.

    I'd say the same thing with any score of 115-113 or draw, regardless of the winner.
     
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  9. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I had Canelo but it was close, would not be upset with any close decision or a draw.

    The first fight Canelo walked away with.
     
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  10. DoubleJ

    DoubleJ Active Member Full Member

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    Same here. In my mind the series is either 1-1 or GGG 1 and a draw.

    Either way, I think it deserves to be a trilogy.
     
  11. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    .Murray scored it for Canelo, tabbing the Mexican star with deserving close points win.

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  12. Boxingfan200

    Boxingfan200 USYK #1 P4P banned Full Member

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    lol ward what a surprise. so glad he's retired now.
     
  13. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Please add Julio Cesar Chavez Sr, Marco Antonio Barrera, Eric Morales etc to this list.
     
  14. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Canelo is much more effective at fighting off the backfoot than GGG is. In the first fight Canelo made a calculated decision to fight off the backfoot, to set traps for GGG. In the rematch Canelo's constant pressure and work rate forced GGG to retreat.

    RJJ's point is that Canelo beat GGG at his own game, he beat GGG fighting the way GGG wanted him to fight, by staying in the pocket by applying constant pressure, by doing what Team GGG wanted Canelo to do in the first fight. RJJ is saying that you can't complain about losing when a fighter beats you at your own game like Canelo did to GGG.
     
  15. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Why would you add Partial people to the list? Those are Canelo’s country men.