Current Cash Cow in boxing is?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Lakers2432, Aug 6, 2009.


  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Comparing PBF-JMM to Pac-Cotto is irrelevant. What is relevant is PBF-JMM against Pac-JMM and PBF-Oscar/PBF-Hatton against Pac-OScar/Pac-Hatton.:deal when the two share common opponents PBF draws more end of dicussion.:hi:
     
  2. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's worth discussing, specifically if you're interested in how boxing is holding up economically/financially.

    Sides we'd be ignorant to act like this doesn't effect negotiations.
     
  3. mgdb26

    mgdb26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well than it's gonna be Pac (unless he loses) because there is no way PBF/Marquez is gonna get more buys that Pac/Cotto.
     
  4. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    your leaving out some things

    floyd & jmm's 24/7 vs cotto & pacmans 24/7
    floyd & jmm's espn coverage vs cotto & pacman's espn coverage

    plenty other **** i cant even think of

    we already know who will have the most interesting 24/7




    mexican support of their superstar vs puerto rico's support of their superstar

    honestly thats what it will break down too
     
  5. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    At the end of the day both 24/7s will bring in nearly the same amount of viewers. I know it's become the standard nowadays to make it sound like 24/7 has a substantial say in extra buys but it doesn't always work that way. I figure both shows will bring in no more than 150K buys extra. Floyd is charismatic and certainly dis likable...but if people don't buy the person you're fighting against then it's not going to garner that big of a response.

    JMM has more to do with 24/7 than Floyd does actually.


    Then Floyd/JMM is in trouble. Manny is the beloved one, Cotto is a big time NY draw and ESPN WILL cater to those two.

    Then it's not that important is it :lol::lol:

    To be fair, JMM has been in the shadows too long. I don't think he's got enough pull with Mexican boxing fans to really hammer home the draws man.
     
  6. JL Fighter

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  7. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    well see... its irrelevant to me really
     
  8. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So then why mention it :lol::lol:

    Ultimately who's the biggest cash cow in boxing isn't important. Who is the bigger draw between Manny and Floyd is....and chances are that'll be why this fight never happens.
     
  9. Lakers2432

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    Thank you that is the whole point. When they fight against the same exact fighter and PBF numbers are better how is PBF not a bigger draw? Just haters no other way to put it.
     
  10. JL Fighter

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    it would really hard to measure precisely due to other factors such as time of the year, state of the economy, etc etc.
     
  11. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Because those are two different scenarios. If you want to argue black and white (which would be wrong) then hey go for it. It's a stupid argument that goes nowhere.

    Point is what JMM-Pacquaio did in March of 2008 is different than what JMM-Pacquio would do now. Pacquaio has officially sucked on the ODLH nipple and is now a semi-big big star.

    That's like if Pacquaio decided to fight Carlos Baldomir and managed to outdraw Floyd-Baldomir, Somebody saying Pac is a bigger draw than Floyd.
     
  12. Lakers2432

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    The whole point is just PBF vs who ever does better then Pac vs who ever so how is Pac bigger and the draw. Okay Oscar was the draw against both nobody disputes that but there has to be a reason PBF gave Oscar his biggest pay day and biggest pay per view numbers ever. No excuses.
     
  13. eze

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    Koki Kameda
     
  14. H .

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    Pac-Cotto will do better than Mayweather-Marquez

    Pac is more exciting to watch than Mayweather (not that I'd ever pic Pac over Mayweather head-to-head) :D
     
  15. Arriba

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    See but if Pac-Cotto outdraws Floyd, that kind of blows that point out of the water.

    IF you remove Oscar and Hatton, Manny DOES have better numbers than Floyd. Not by much (and it's semantical at that point) but he does.

    Oscar De La Hoya was coming off a retirement and a BIG BIG KO win over Mayorga. Floyd was the guaranteed best P4P in the world (compare that to Manny who's got JMM practically grabbing at the top spot. It also had the best marketing job ever...compared to Manny who can't speak english well enough to carry the heel role.

    If Floyd was a mega bucks superstar, tickets wouldn't be moving so slow. Truth is neither guy is a mega draw over the other...50/50 is probably the best solution but egos will prevent that.