Current David Haye vs Ali at the rumble in the jungle instead of Foreman

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Duffy, May 9, 2012.


  1. Duffy

    Duffy Guest

    With Haye having the same height, style, power and weight as young Foreman just how do we think this fight would go down seeing Ali vs "The Hayemaker" during the exact same moment in history.


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    With Haye being equal to all of Foreman's attributes then we also have to look at the advantages that has over Foreman.

    Footwork.

    The characteristic footwork employed by most of the world's major boxing has changed little over the centuries, and has remained largely invariable between radically different cultures. The boxer relies on 'push stepping'. In which the leading leg advances first, then the rear, with the feet coming to rest in the exact relative position.

    Rear movement is a reversal of this step, and lateral movement involves push stepping in the same fashion, with the foot closest to the desired direction stepping laterally, followed by the opposite foot, which is used to move the body.
    For the pugilist, footwork is to be deft and simplistic, allowing the fighter to move in and out of striking range as quickly as possible. Footwork is key to generating sufficient power in the basic strikes shared between the major styles. During the jab, the lead foot can move forward to close distance or remain stationary. During the cross, the rear foot pivots inward to launch the rear shoulder forward, allowing the cross a good deal of its strength. During the left hook, the lead foot pivots in an inward manner to transfer bodyweight. The right hook's pivot is identical to the cross (assuming the boxer is orthodox). The lead uppercut, like the jab does not use any pivotal motion, the power comes from the transfer of bodyweight to the lead foot. The rear uppercut employs the same inward pivot as the cross. To maintain balance, both feet can step, pivot or slide as appropriate. The jab may be thrown while moving forward or backward; for the other punches it is advisable not to throw while in motion.

    Head movement.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W_nAcQKR5I[/ame]


    All in all I think Haye will be able to push ali to the limits but in the end lose this one on points.
     
  2. Duffy

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsawoiQ-0C0[/ame]


    watch the footwork, mobility and head movement here. Now just remember this is a man in equal power, strength and punch ability as Foreman, scary really.
     
  3. bretchko

    bretchko ESB VET Full Member

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    David Haye would murder Ali inside of 3 rounds ...he is bad and has one of the most powerful one punch ko power every for a man his size and is fast to ..... he is going to have a HAYE day on Chisoras face to
     
  4. bretchko

    bretchko ESB VET Full Member

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    Oh his power is better than Formans ....he has freaky power
     
  5. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Are you comparing the reactions on the Brit forum to those on the General or something? :blood
     
  6. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    David Haye is the greatest boxer of all time. P4P better than Robinson and Ali.

    Haye was robbed against Thompson and Wladimir.
     
  7. Duffy

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    It's similar power although I wouldn't say better. You don't leave Valuev on ***** street and have Klitschko fighting terrified without great punching power.
     
  8. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    WTF is with all these Haye threads?? And how many alts does Relentless have??:patsch
     
  9. Duffy

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    No. Typed it out and it took a while so thought why not stick it in the British forum too with it being about a British fighter.
     
  10. bretchko

    bretchko ESB VET Full Member

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    Lets not get to far out here david was running from Wlad because of Wlads power ...which is more that Hayes power but for his size Haye has great power .... but Wlad would beet him 10 out of 10 ......Wlad is to big and fast for Haye :deal
     
  11. bretchko

    bretchko ESB VET Full Member

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    Why bother giving a **** if it bothers you so much :huh
     
  12. Vladimir23

    Vladimir23 Boxing Addict banned

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    Wlad deserves more credit for his masterful dominant win over Haye.
     
  13. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't know if this is some sort of joke thread, but Ali would knock Haye out fairly easily.
     
  14. kenmore

    kenmore Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haye does not have the punching power of Foreman. As hard as Haye hits (and he hits quite hard), he was nowhere near Foreman's level.
     
  15. HeGlassedMe

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