Current Deontay Wilder vs prime Artur Beterbiev @heavyweight

Wilder looked like the hardest puncher of all time because he was up against tin cans who were not iron chinned. The moment he ran into two guys of substance that actually did have chins (Fury and Parker), they took his punches and promptly folded him.

 

The irony - Wilder gets outboxed by 8/10 people but Beterbiev will suddenly get outboxed by one of the worst ‘boxers’ on his resume.

The irony - Wilder didn’t stop the one person he fought who has an above average chin (Parker). But he’s going to knockout Beterbiev with ease.

Wilder fans are hilarious.

 

Joseph Parker's chin has been tested by genuine elite heavyweights well over 200 lbs such as Ruiz, Whyte, Joshua, Chisora, etc. He is also a good defensive fighter and knows how to brace and roll with shots.

Beterbiev has approximately ZERO KO's against cruiserweights, let alone heavyweights, nor has his chin been tested by any men in those divisions.

Anyone who thinks Beterbiev wins this fight is a moron. This is the same section that would laugh at the idea of Joe Louis beating Joshua, but this is supposed to be a serious conversation...?

 

Fury was knocked down 4x in 2 fights and was honestly very lucky he had a lenient ref in the first fight where he could've been counted out or stopped due to how brutal the knockdown was. Fury himself acknowledges Wilders power and went through hell to get those wins. Several people who sparred with both Wilder and Joshua said Wilder hits harder. His power is extremely obvious.

He hardly landed anything on Parker because he had a hard time pulling the trigger and can't fight backing up. That doesn't remotely prove a light heavyweight can take his punches. Power is the last thing to go, Wilder had a 1st round KO in his last fight demolishing a guy who was over 250 lbs. Beterbiev would get knocked into the second row if Wilder landed a clean punch to the jaw and I'm not even going to entertain any clowns who think otherwise.

 

So now Parker has an elite chin, but prior to fighting Wilder it was shattered from Joyce. Nice.

So what? Wilder has fought 2 people of Beterbiev's calibre and lost to both. You're going around in circles.

So not the people that spent the better part of 10 years hyping up a glass-jawed cannon?
Beterbiev has two routes to victory. He would box Wilder's head off and cruise to a wide decision win or go after Wilder and stop him early. You talk about Beterbiev as if he's 5ft 6... he's 6 foot tall, hits like a mule and has a great chin.

 

Yes he has an elite chin. He took punches from elite punchers without getting KOd. A single KO loss doesn't mean someone has a bad chin.

They were all heavyweights. Even an average HW's jab is as strong as a light heavy's right hand. And it's significantly harder to KO a 200+ pound man than a light heavy. Wilder decapitates Beterbiev the second he connects to the jaw with something big.

He's 6 ft tall, 175 lbs with much shorter arms. He isn't "cruising" to anything buf an ER visit.

He hits like a mule and has a great chin for a light heavy.

 

Wilder would have AB sharting vodka by the 3rd round.

 

Who's hilarious? You wouldn't want a poll on the subject. Maybe you should run Beterbiev up the flagpole to fight Jai Opetia at cruiser before trying a heavyweight . And as far as Wilder's competition, an out of shape Fury would kill him , heck ,Beterbiev couldn't beat Luis Ortiz today!

 

Beterbiev pushed Usyk to the bring and knocked him down. He'd have his way with Wilder, who's really not a huge heavyweight to begin with. What would the actual weight difference be here? Twenty? Twenty five pounds?

 

Beterbiev is conceding roughly 30 pounds in this fight. Classic heavies are frequently picked over modern heavies with an even greater size gap. Joe Louis is at a bigger weight disadvantage against many modern heavyweights.

 

Wilder soon tobe out the top ten of the only two orgs left who rate him
Dollars are dwindling faster than his stock
Hes just swerved zhang
Sanchez maybe lol
Back to the wbc top 60 to 20

 

In theory, that all makes sense. Unfortunately where it falls flat is that Opetia would slap Wilder silly.

Opetia > Beterbiev > Wilder

Wilder isn’t a big heavyweight
Wilder isn’t a skilled heavyweight
Wilder has below par defence
Wilder has lost to the only ‘elite’ names on his record
Wilder has been outboxed in arguably the 5 biggest fights on his resume

 

Joe Louis literally fought multiple men who were 30 lbs heavier than him. And he won.

Beterbiev did not.

 

But these big guys he beat were terrible in comparison to guys like Lewis and the Klitschko brothers. I'm sure there are some giant men (240, 250 plus) that would be brutalized by Beterbiev. Frankly given who guys like Carnera and Simon lost to I would have to have to make Beterbiev a heavy favorite.

You really think size is going to save Carnera and Simon from getting crushed by Beterbiev? They lost to guys around his size who were far from great.

 

This thread isn't about how Joe Louis would do. The facts of the matter are that Louis fought bigger opponents and won. Beterbiev did not. Yet some of the same people who say Louis would lose against modern sized guys are saying Beterbiev would beat Wilder. It doesn't make any sense.

Beterbiev gets demolished by Wilder the very second he gets hit by something big to the jaw. He's tiny and has an aggressive come forward style against potentially the hardest hitter of the gloves era. He has zero fights against ang cruiser or heavies. There is literally zero reason to favor Beterbiev.

Wilder's losses were to the enormous 6'8 275 pound Fury and the 6'4 240 pound Parker. Fury used his size, skill, and movement in the 1st fight, and made Wilder back up and nailed him in the next 2. Parker used lateral movement and in and out tactics while also forcing Wilder to back up. If you think a 6'0 175 pound guy can make Wilder back up or outbox him, you're an idiot.