Current HW top 10

1. Joshua
2. Wilder
3. Whyte
4. Povetkin
5. Ortiz
6. Parker
7. Miller
8. Chisora
9. Breazeale
10. Any of about 10 guys.

Reasons

Active Tyson Fury would be number 2.

Whyte has better recent wins than Povetkin.

Ortiz is only 5th (He should be lower) because Parker has 2 defeats.....And to justify Wilder's position as number 2.

Chisora gets 8th as Takam is a better win than anyone has outside the top 6.

 

Usyk has weighed in heavier for his first 15 pro fights than what Cassius Clay did for his first 15.

After 15 pro fights, Cassius was the no.2 contender for the heavyweight championship of the world held by Sonny Liston.

The no.1 contender was Floyd Patterson, the former champ, who weighed even less.

Not suggesting Usyk is in the same class as Cassius but spare me the nonsense about Usyk's weight.

Usyk also has good wins against big heavies like Joe Joyce & Junior Fa post winning his Olympic gold medal.

Usyk's Olympic gold medal was won at heavyweight.

Haye was shot, but Bellew pulled the trigger.

 

So what would you rate as Usyk’s best win as a pro heavyweight?

And you don’t think there’s people below Bellew in your list with a better win than a shot Haye at HW?

 

@Sandman_

The World of Boxing knew Haye was shot.....And twice they still thought he would beat Bellew.


Bellew is above Usyk in the HW rankings as he has two wins over a HW.

 

It's not just a matter of "best wins". It's also a subjective assessment of a fighter's ability.

Clearly, Usyk is right up there. All his wins have been at heavyweight as far as I'm concerned. What's his best? Gassiev, last start.

I'd take Bellew over Parker if they were to fight next. He's coming off two impressive kayo wins, Parker is coming off two losses.

Bellew deserves his spot until someone ousts him.

 

1. AJ
2. Povetkin
3. Fury
4. Wilder
5. Ortiz
6. Pulev
7. Whyte
8. Parker
9. Breazeale
10. Miller

 

"Subjective assessment of a fighter's ability."

That sounds more like fantasy P4P to me.




Wins, and the level of opposition you win against, is a far better judgement that trying to make a 'Subjective assessment'.

Ortiz's 'Bogeyman' status, and even being in the Top 10, is based on KO'ing Jennings.....Yet people ignore his failed test, and his inability to put a serious dent in Scott who was KO'd as embarassingly against Wilder as Price was against Teper.

 

1. Anthony Joshua
2. Deontay Wilder
3. Dillian Whyte
4. Tyson Fury
5. Luis Ortiz
6. Joseph Parker
7. Hughie Fury
8. Alexander Povetkin
9. Kubrat Pulev
10. Dominic Brezeale

If Tyson Fury was to get back fully fit and ready then he'd go to number 1

 

How is Ortiz above Whyte?

Ortiz KO'd Jennings when on gear.....

Whyte beat Parker, who's superior to Jennings, and Browne/Helenius who are better wins than Scott/Allen.

 

No one watches Kyotaro fight?

 

Whyte is garbage.

You're only blowing smoke up his backside b/c Joshua has a win over him.

 

Fantasy is believing Dillian Whyte is the third best heavyweight in the world.

More like third-rate trailer trash.

 

I don't think that's really fair. Parker destroyed Dimitrenko, and is fighting better now than he was then. There is a big difference in levels there - I am not hugely stoked with his performance against Whyte, but Whyte has a shitload of life in him compared to Dimitrenko.