Current ring magazine ratings at heavy. Agree or disagree?

So you're telling me if Israel Vasquez moved up to featherweight you wouldn't have him in the top 10?

If Kelly Pavlik moved up to 168 you wouldn't have him in the top 10?

It's not nuthugging you ***git. If it was the other way round and Haye was the super-heavy and Wlad the cruiserweight, and Wlad moved up, I'd still put him in the top 10.

 

If he made more of an impact in the division using his fists rather than running his mouth, yes I would agree that he should be in the top ten.

It is very impressive what he accomplished fighting Monte Barrett...but it is what it is...a former Cruiser champion beating the #25 heavy in the world. Yeah, that merits a title shot!!

 

Exactly. Beating some nobody and a washed-up fringe contender does NOT merit a top ten ranking, no way, no how. Like someone said, that's some SERIOUS nuthugging. And people wonder why some of us can't stand how overrated this clown is?

 

So if Kelly Pavlik moved up to 168 and beat somebody like Jeff Lacy, you wouldn't have him in the top 10?

 

haye should be in there. low, but in there all the same. valuev should not be as high as he is, nor should maskaev.

 

Because the ring announcer is just some guy that reads out whatever the promoter tells him to say?

 

Bad example...Jeff Lacy is a former title holder who is currrently ranked #15 in the world.

As much as I respect "2 Guns", he hasn't accomplished as much as Lacy.

 

would you say calzaghe was the undisputed super middleweight champ? he had the same belts as haye, didnt defend them like haye, moved up a weight like haye.

 

Why wouldn't a promotor announce every fighter with a world title as 'undisputed' then?

Because it wouldn't be true, in Haye's case, it is.

He held 3 of the 4 titles, no one else had a claim to the title.

 

No.

 

:huh

 

How is it even disputable Haye wasn't undiputed champ?He beat the man in Mormeck.

 

Bad example why?

Ranked 15 in the world by who?

Quit looking at Boxrec, if that is your source for world rankings I'm not even going to bother debating with you.

Lacy is a ruined fighter, I could name you 15 fighters who would beat him in the super middle weight division. He got ruined by Calzaghe, and since then has been humiliated by Jermain Taylor and barely beaten Tsypko, Mendoza and Manfredo.

 

Which made him the 'man at the weight', linear champion, ring magazine champion, wba champion, wbc champion.

It doesn't make him undisputed, which is a term with a specific meaning.

 

Wlad needs to stop ducking Vitali