what are you stupid? I'm saying Corrie Sanders is a ****ing threat to both. Not saying he only can beat up Wlad. Sanders is a ruthless southpaw that can KO anyone on a good day. Also rematches cancel out first fluke defeats why you think nobody talk **** about Wlad losing to Brewster? cuz he canceled it out [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWlzFITRjYg[/ame] where's wladimir doing that to sanders?
Because Stewart would have no reason to promote the fighter he's currently with and making money from as opposed to the one he currently doesn't make money from.
rofl . woosh but that don't fly by Kbros fans .. To them everything Steward says is Gold. He is their Black Jesus
I once worked with this West African fellow and he told me something that has stayed with me ever since. What he told me was actually passed on to him by his dear grandmother. He said, "when your hand is in the lion's mouth it's best to stroke it's head".
No they don't. Because for rematches to happen you require the Gods of boxing politics to play nice with you. Rematches mean jack****. It's an illusion of boxing fans "Oh he beat every man he ever faced in the ring". What if Rahman had retired after knocking out Lewis? What if he went to jail or had a car accident? Then Lewis would never have had the chance to rematch him, then what. Lewis would suddenly be a worse boxer? That's so ridiculous. Wlad rematching Brewster doesn't make me forget how he got his stuffing knocked out by Brewster in the first fight. And boringly jabbing a crying and helpless McCall in the rematch for 5 rounds doesn't make me forget how Lewis' jaw was cracked in their first fight.
wtf.... If Lewis didn't avenge his defeat against Rahman, ya that will place him lower on the ATG List. Wtf... are you serious or trolling? Go ask anyone if Lewis didn't avenge his defeat against Rahman will that effect his rankings? OF COURSE IT WOULD. Rofl..
atschatschatsch Yeah because Joe Louis, Ray Leonard, Muhammad Ali, and Ray Robinson would have been regarded as the fighters they are today if they didn't avenge their defeats.
Ah so if Rahman had killed himself after winning against Lewis that would make Lewis take a lower rank on an ATG ranking? atsch What you're saying is that luck plays an element in ATG ratings you realize that don't you? That's absolutely ridiculous and downright irrational. Rather than outside factors such as luck and coincidence, I prefer to rank boxers on criteria they are able to influence themselves: Discipline, skill, longevity, dominance, explosiveness, toughness, aggressive and defensive capabilities and quality of opposition. Those factors can - to a degree - be influenced by a boxer. Being lucky enough to get a rematch in the world of ABC boxing organizations against an opponent you lost doesn't belong in the same list.
Uh yes.. wtf. are you serious rofl. REMATCHES BOOST A FIGHTER'S ATG STATUS. OF COURSE IT DOES. If Lennox didn't rematch Rahman and beat him, he goes down 3-7 spots
Ya seriously.. . ALI'S resume definitely got boosted because he beat Frazier after Frazier beat him. This guy is saying if Ali just ducked Frazier after his loss, it WILL NOT EFFECT ALI'S ATG STATUS. rofl
Incorrect. Idiotic fans (and especially ESB classic forum nutheads) tend to pay too much attention to won or lost rematches in evaluating a boxer's track record. They ignore the element of chance. Additionally, you forget the fact that there was much less boxing politics in the 30s than 70-80 years later thanks to an inflation in belts and boxing organizations. Rematches are less likely to happen today than 100 years ago. :deal
Dude Luck does have to do with ATG Rankings. I know what you are trying to say , but luck have A LOT to do with it. Take for example the Klithsckos If those guys had to 'develop' in the 90's, Wladimir would have been retired at age 26. Because the green version of Wladimir would have been brutally knocked out 5-6 times and called it a day. Vitali would have PED Overdoes to keep up with 'evan fields' the fact that both kbros are in the **** era that is today's HW Division, boosted up their rankings considerably so yes luck have a lot to do with it. Same with Lennox, if Prime Lewis was in today's Division, he would be like 100-0 with 100 Knock outs and be considered the 'goat' so bad luck for Lewis GREAT luck for kbros
In your ranking, not in mine. Lewis was obviously the better boxer than Rahman, he loss to Rahman was always a fluke. And outside of the win against Lewis Rahman has never shown he's a better boxer than Lewis. Neither before nor after knocking out Lewis. It doesn't take a rematch to realize that. What has Frazier done except for getting a fluke win against Ali? He's 1 in 5 in his big fights. Without that fluke win Frazier's record becomes paper thin. Ali winning his last fight vs. Frazier shows what exactly? That Ali was a better boxer with a much better track record than Frazier? We knew that all along. Anybody with a brain didn't need a 3rd fight to realize that :deal