Current world colored heavyweight champion?

Yes he was.

He won NSC world belt for beating Iron Hague and the program for his next UK fight against Bill Lang suggests this was considered a title defense.
He won IBU/FBF world belt for beating Jeanette. This fight was set up as alternative to Jack Johnson vs Jim Johnson. It happened the next day in the same city.

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A good article on historical revisionism.

 

I don't really follow basketball. Last time I did was the 90's. My apologies if I misspoke.

But a dude is named Bogdan Boganovic? Humorous. Like being named Jeff Jefferson.

 

Like Kris Kristofferson.

 

Bogdan Bogdanović is not strange in my people.
Stranger is Milić Vukašinović, where both names resemble the surname.
Like if it was called (I'm making a parallel so you can understand): Jefferson Kristofferson, or Kristofferson Jefferson.

 

Scandinavians and Russians use the Patrynomic (I think) name convention. Serbs are Russian stepchildren anyway, correct?

 

With the Russians, it's a bit complicated.
When someone's name is Artur Asilbekovich Beterbiev, it means that his father's name is Asilbek.
When someone's name is Dmitry Yuryevich Bivol, it means that his father's name is Yuri.

IMHO it used to be the same people, but that part of history is banned, censored (of course not officially, but if you talk about it - then you're crazy) in my people as well.
Mainly because first the Rus and then the Serbs became communists, it got even more complicated.

 

Them that makes the gold makes the rules,and AJ certainly makes the gold.
Sanchez appears to be an excellent fighter,and one I would give a great chance of defeating Joshua ,but he doesn't bring £$£$£$ to the table,so it's unlikely he will get a shot at AJ.Sanchez needs to press his claims by taking on some names,
Whyte
Ruiz
Wilder
Hrgovic
Dubois
Whomever he can cajole into a ring.

 

Makes sense. Thanks for explaining that.

 

The Hague fight was billed as for the British title.
Langford won the French Federations version of the world heavyweight ttile and held it for 2 weeks ,then the FF,re-recognized Johnson.

 

AJ has fought
Usyk x2
Ruiz x2
Whyte
Helenius
Martin
Breazeale
Pulev
Wlad
Povetkin
Takam
Molina
Wallin
Parker
Anyone got a better heavyweight resume?

 

It was for the NSC world title. Jack Johnson was supposed to fight Iron Hague and pulled out and Langford replaced him. The 2 prior holders of the NSC title had been given title shots so the NSC had not felt the need to name their title fights world title fights.

So you acknowledge the title? I think it was recognized by the IBU too. This was right when the IBU was being formed so it's a little muddy.

 

Frank Sanchez doesn't have a better heavyweight resume but all 'Colored' heavyweight champions didn't have the best resumes ... because that wasn't the point of the 'Colored' heavyweight championship.

The 'Colored" heavyweight championship was created because those fighters COULD NOT GET a heavyweight title shot.

Anthony Joshua has had a dozen title fights. Wilder has had 13 title fights. Whyte has had one. Dubois has had one. They don't fit the bill.

Frank Sanchez has had none. No heavyweight title fights, and NONE are on the horizon, even though he's ranked as high as #2 in the WBC and among the five top heavyweights in every org's ratings.

Anthony Joshua has beaten no black fighters on that list this decade. Frank Sanchez beat Efe Ajagba in the 2020s.

I know it's dumb to argue this topic because there is no 'colored' title anymore, and people aren't denied shots according to their race anymore (so I'm bowing out), but Frank Sanchez fits the bill more than any fighter on the original post's list ...

That's why I voted for him.

Arguing FOR JOSHUA shows a lack of understanding what the 'Colored' Heavyweight Championship was even created for.

It was created for those who couldn't get a fight for the World title (and why they couldn't).

Jack Johnson only got a World title shot because he chased Tommy Burns all over the globe to get one, and Johnson was lucky Burns wasn't from the U.S.

Or Johnson never would've fought for it.

Larry Gains, Obie Walker, George Godfrey, Harry Wills, Sam Langford, Bill Tate, Sam McVea, Joe Jennette, Ed Martin, etc. ... no World Title fights.

Frank Sanchez ... highly ranked by every org, not even being considered for a title shot.

Contrast that with Joshua, who can have his 13th title fight next if "Joshua chooses" to fight Hrgovic for a vacant IBF belt next or if Joshua 'chooses' to wait one fight and fight the winner of Fury-Usyk II for all the marbles.

That wasn't a "choice" for 'Colored' champs back in the day.

 

Sam Langford was never a WORLD champion just like Monte Masters was NOT the WORLD Heavyweight Champion (or even a two-time World Heavyweight champion) or Bobby Czyz was NOT the first WORLD "Bridgerweight" champion or Joe Louis was NOT the first two-time heavyweight champion.

It's not revisionism. Every time in history a promoter put "title fight" on a poster didn't make it a title fight.

Revisionisn is going back and trying to elevate those fights to something they were NOT ...

Sorry.

 

I feel like you are applying modern minor title rules to a title that existed a century ago. I could be wrong just saying.

Well you acknowledged he was world champion for 2 weeks

What makes a title fight? A poster is a primary source. That is the highest credibility thing there is. So yes a poster absolutley makes it a title fight because it speaks for people at the time who are dead and are unable to speak for themselves.

It is revisionism. But I guess if we argue about this its going around in circles.

 

Archie Moore vs. James J. Parker
For the World Heavyweight Championship

This kind of stuff has happened historically and it was almost immediately dismissed at the time as nonsense.

Going back a half a century or a full century and pretending it was considered a World Heavyweight Title fight to anyone - when even the boxers themselves didn't give it much credence - is revisionism.