Cus D'amato - No Swarmer Beats Foreman?

Of course, if anyone tried to just mindlessly throw punches aggressively at Foreman (young or old), they wouldn't make it past the 1st round and would wake up in intensive care.

 

If the topic was Frazier beats all swarmers you'd be embracing "swarmer" like a long lost Labrador, a chocolate one at that.

 

There are no absolutes in boxing. So I wouldn’t ever embrace one guy beats all guy quotes. unverified quotes misleading the next generation of boxing fans are unhelpful.

 

According to some, Cus said no shorter, attacking type fighter beats Foreman.
Morrison was “shorter than Foreman” and known as an “attacking type fighter” who used the right tactics, within his style, to beat George. This is why generalising style over tactics within a style does not work. There is a flaw in using swarmer as an absolute. Which is why I doubt the word was ever used by fight people before the internet. Trainers trade on strategy within all styles.

 

Right chok the legend it seems to be that quotes like styles or like you said they say the title of a person's fighting style seems to for some people mean by that title alone means they automatically lose
Which is a odd way to think always has been that's been exposed as a lie in mutiple matches for years

 

Facts and look how tom fought he fought like mike wasnt as good as countering or did he use the fancy head movement or angles as good

But he still did duck in the style of mike and made george miss

But look at his punch style look at his doubling up on combos when the person missed or was open to shots
Tom even used wide type punches like mike


They say george would destroy mike how the man was slow easy to read with no defense

Tom showed for a fact Mike would destroy george

The difference is tom fought a better version of george who developed real defense

Wasted less shots
Wasnt as easy to read
Didnt push as much

Anybody who seen and is not crazy knows the young george for a fact that same style tom used to beat the old george would ko theyoung george with no problem

And that means mike beats george cause mike was a way more advanced just shorter ver of tom

And cus never said that why is it its been repeated for years yet been exposed as a lie years ago is odd and its boxers who have said they would beat people did they no so what does his myth word matter

Why people won't admit this is odd always has been its like obvious

 

seems to be the case of a repeated misinterpretation.

 

He used hit and run tactics, which is the complete opposite of swarming attacking style. Morrison did not stay in front of him for more than a couple seconds and then backed off immediately.

Dempsey, Marciano, Frazier, and Tyson NEVER fought that way no matter how much you want to keep extrapolating off of it.

And 90's Foreman did not fight the same as 70's Foreman. The reason people get tired of talking to you is because you keep ignoring facts and moving the goal posts so we can never get past square 1. It feels like I'm a frustrated parent with a kid stuck on the 1st question of the homework for hours.

 

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look at this folks the ducking the counters in the style of mike and threw wide shots like mike

which doesn't change the obvious of him fighting like mike with the added of backing up at times and fighting more upright being the differences that tom used

mike waited more so he could counter more either way shows this style or mikes would be way effective for taking out slow no defense george

and people who act like they cant see will say tom backed up only instead of looking at the whole style of punch and duck style that tom used which is shown above

Compared to this

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Can anybody not see the obvious joe is just standing there in front not fighting anything like mike or tom which he is compared to even thought its been disproven years ago so its odd to compare mike or tom to joe when this vid shows neither one fought like joe

Tom is the one who fights like mike Tom is the one who showed mike style would do real good vs george for the ko

 

Mike never once in his career fought the way Morrison did against Foreman.

 

The supposed statement at the time implies Foreman would beat Frazier, Dempsey and Marciano. The vast majority would agree with this. It's hardly an absolute.

I reckon Foreman would beat all lightweights. It's an absolute. I am happy to embrace it.

Your statement regarding misleading the next generation of boxing fans is hogwash, and dare i say absurd.

 

Nobody is asking that or pretending Cus said it.

 

Cus saying “swarmer” or “swarming” is a repeated misinterpretation of an unverified quote. Hogwash would be saying this quote was verified when it isn’t.

 

You said, and i quote, "there are no absolutes in boxing".

 

There you go misrepresenting a supposed quote. The supposed quote was "a swarming attacking style like Marciano or Frazier". There is no mention of "swarmer".

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