damn, Hopkins is really worried about calzaghe!

Don't think it's a sign of being worried, even though he could be. This could be a sign that he's taking this fight very very serious, though saying he's worried isn't totally wrong considering his age.

 

Its more like 28-1.

Joe has 20 plus himself.

 

The trainers got brought up in the original post of this thread...

 

Those defenses were against fillers ... you don't have 20 top 10 conteders by the WBO on Calzaghe's resume.

You can't find more than 5 known names on his resume w/ his stiffest tests against Lacy and Kessler.

I don't think Enzo Calzaghe would be ready for what a fighter like Hopkins has in store.

Enzo might not be a wash when it comes to top notch trainers but he's not up there as far as ... keeping his fighters head into the fight ... adjustments... strategising against adversity ...

He doesn't have Joe under his control ... Joe was more times than not just naturally better than the guys he's fought. Against Hopkins he's going to be going against a fighter that they may infact might not be ready for.

 

No he isn't!atsch he just wants to make the chance of winning as big as possible

 

It called being a pro, and not doing anything half ass, when your fighting one of the best fighters in boxing.

 

i'm rolln w/ my boy bernard, THE EXECUTIONER!!!!!!!!!!

 

No...its not.

 

He'd have been concerned even prime, Calzaghe's the 2nd best fighter he'd have faced after Jones.

Every fighter who is serious is concerned going into a fight, a little nerves is good, he had those Vs. Tito even, probably the nerves came from the thought of avoiding the left and wanting to put on a complete dominant display.

It happens though.

Now he's got to be stressed out of his mind.

 

Calzaghe adding Hopkins himself and Dawson would put him in a better resume, you'd have to agree with that.

 

Calzaghe would get knocked out by Dawson, literally ...

Dawson is in a different league that Calzaghe ... 25yrs old ... fast as hell, strong as hell, and a better technician overall.

 

You know Im a supporter of Calzaghe's resume. It is lightyears better than what most give him credit for....but it would still be debatable.

You would have...

Eubank, Mitchell, Lacy, Reid, Kessler, Bika, Hopkins and Dawson.

vs

Tarver, Wright, Tito, DLH, Holmes, Eastman, Joppy, Taylor (I think we both believe history will be kind to Bernard on this one ala Hagler - Leonard), Vanderpool, Echols and Johnson.

Joe's resume would go from DAMN GOOD to great, but I still feel Hopkins' would be deeper top to bottom.

 

I also add in the competitive loss to Jones as a credit, WINS are not everything, how you win and how you lose counts a lot in my book just as much as overall opposition, so add that on.

But if we're going to be fair, you're going to have to stop giving Hopkins credit for minor wins unless you want to do the same for Joe.

If we want to list Holmes and Eastman for Hops, then we have to list Veit and Woodhall for Joe(both fights won impressively) and both guys operating at the same level as the guys above.

So let's "hypothetically" add up what the discussion is about.

Joe(hypothetical) -

Eubank, Reid, Woodhall, Sheika, Mitchell, Veit, Lacy, Bika, Kessler, Hopkins & Dawson.

No losses, now let's say that aside from Reid, all were outclassings, including Dawson.

Hopkins(hypothetical) -

Tito, DLH, Joppy, Vanderpool, Johnson, Eastman, Holmes, Tarver, Wright, Echols.

Disputed losses to Taylor late in the career X2...

Competitive but clear loss to a young Jones*

All of the wins above were outclassing's or better(dominative).

.........................

So, in this hypothetical discussion, I think it's clear that Calzaghe's opposition there is more difficult for a MW-SMW fighter than Hopkins', SAVE for the great Roy Jones of course.

I'd just want to admit that despite Hopkins having a slight edge in opposition(all on Jones really), Calzaghe's overall resume would be superior, there's no arguing that one.

 

Bro Naseem had a stroke last year which is why Roach came on board. I met Bro Nasim at the weigh in to the Hopkins vs. Eastman fight in LA. Whoever posted he's an underrated trainer knows what they're talking about. What has hindered his notoriety is that he came up under Bouie Fischer and didn't have any charges of his own.

I don't think he trains his son Rock Allen. Anyways, theres an interview out there with Nasim how he brought down Tarver's strategy. He's the one who Hopkins said is actually should be credited for spotting "Trinidad's CAST" (the handwrapping incident in 01). You can hear him screaming about the "CAST" if you rewatch Tito vs. Nard.

Actually if you watch DLH vs. Nard, you can hear his instructions and what he's reading on Oscar. He pretty much described exactly what was going on including telling 'Nard to throw the infamous "BODY SHOT".

Shillstone's there just for conditioning but Hop is already a well conditioned athlete so anything Mackie brings is a plus. John David Jackson is another great "strategy" trainer. As mentioned, he and Nard already had a good existing relationship.

Off topic, we say what Nate Campbell did to Diaz, I would love to see JDJ go with someone like Zab Judah to improve him. Back on track, I understand Cal doesn't want to change whats worked so well but as he mentioned, none of that will matter when they both step in the ring.

 

As muich as I despise Hops' boring style, the dude 'prepares' he doesnt 'worry'.