Damn, I thought the KO6 was legit until...

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  1. Jaguar

    Jaguar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think that if Floyd wanted to ensure an even playing field in a brutal sport such as boxing, that is his prerogative. I had no problem with it. I think Floyd beats any version of Pacquiao at any point in either of their careers. Pacquiao just doesn't possess the skill set necessary to beat Floyd.

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  2. Jaguar

    Jaguar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    VADA or USADA, it was more than Pacquiao was willing to take. Roach said it himself. They walked away and avoided testing. Then he said he suspected Ariza's shakes! You can't refute that. These are quotes direct from Pac's trainer. They ducked, and Roach thinks he might have been doping.
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  3. GeoffJ

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    That absolutely is his prerogative. It's the way he went about it by leading a public smear campaign that ****ed everything up.
     
  4. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There was no smear campaign. And when you refuse to take a PED test as an athlete, you are smearing your own reputation. Manny had 50/50, ring size choice, glove size choice, 10 million per pound penalty for Mayweather, and a 14 day cutoff. MANNY WALKED AWAY TO FIGHT A GUY COMING OFF A LOSS!

    Then he had the nerve to do additional testing for the Rios fight after he gets knocked out? Are you kidding me? Sorry, but anybody who defends this nonsense is a ******. *******s look like the biggest idiots in history right now with all of this. Their hypocrisy is hilarious.

    The only person who made Manny Pacquiao look guilty of taking PEDs is Manny Pacquiao himself. Only somebody who has doubts about what he is putting into his system would refuse additional PED tests for the biggest pay day of their career.
     
  5. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There is suspicion around boxing in general . . . no one should refuse drug testing when asked
     
  6. GeoffJ

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    Was the defamation case a figment of my imagination as well?
     
  7. GeoffJ

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    That's the position widely held now by Pac as well. And now Floyd won't fight him because of Bob Arum. No other reason. Get with it. I'll be here all day to set you guys straight..
     
  8. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Diversionary tactic to take away from the fact they were unwilling to subject Manny Pacquiao to more stringent PED tests. The lawsuit happened AFTER Manny refused testing and the 1st negotiation fell through. It was a total ***** move by Pacquiao. Did Holyfield sue Tyson when Tyson was saying he thought Evander was on steroids? No.... he took the extra tests and whipped Tyson's ass in the ring.

    You wouldn't say you were suspicious of somebody after they refused additional testing and balked on the largest pay day of their career? Please... Anybody with a brain knows that Manny put all this suspicion on himself. I wasn't suspicious of Manny in any way until after he started ducking these tests and came up with 100 excuses on why he can't take them.


    Anybody who defends Manny Pacquiao on this subject is a complete hypocrite and dip ****.
     
  9. GeoffJ

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    That's some revisionist history or you haven't been paying attention.
    He did agree to more stringent testing.
    He made a tape in 2005 saying he was weakened by a blood test prior to the Morales 1.
    He didn't want blood taken close to the fight.
    He suspected it of being a tactic to get under his skin or gain some petty advantage. (not Floyd!)
    Keep attacking my intelligence. I can see through the BS and you can't. Now grow up and quit spreading lies.
     
  10. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I love Pac, just wish he admitted he was wrong 2009 not 2012-4. Arum has always been the issue . . . get with it:bart. Been saying it since the first go round
     
  11. Jaguar

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    :deal
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    Excellent posts!
     
  12. robert80

    robert80 Boxing Addict banned

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    who told pac to run head first into juans right hand!! Have you guys ever heard off speed & velocity?
     
  13. tennis

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    Pacquiao should say

    Take the test

    My health come first

    Ill give you a low ball offer with zero PPV and my fans will pretend it's the best offer ever
     
  14. Lucan

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    If mayweather pacman maqrquez were PED cheats they would have been caught by now, mosley vitali klit RJJ Toney the list goes on and on that were actually caught and with todays testing being better seems very unlikely for them to go all this time without being caught.
     
  15. antonio plaisir

    antonio plaisir the detonator Full Member

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    armstrong did, a coupla times. money changed hands, loopholes were invoked, b samples were never tested and the issue vanished. sound familiar?