Damn Pac you officially s*****d on your fans...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by renyo, Dec 23, 2010.


  1. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    the testing is not even the whole issue when floyd took a vacation. it was reported that the negotiations were almost done with arum, haymon and greenburg when floyd bailed out in the last minute. so whatever was stipulated in the negotiations, it doesn't matter cause haymon had agreed on floyd behalf. it's just that floyd won't fight. even schaeffer and ellerbe were caught lying trying to cover for floyd saying that there were no negotiations until greenburg exposed them.

    now that the margarito fight is over, why is not floyd coming out yet? oh i get it, floyd is having these legal problems. :patsch
     
  2. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I can't wait to see if they attempt to make this fight this summer. Per *******s, as of now:

    -- Pac agrees to ALL testing demands
    -- Pac is willing to test even between rounds

    So we should have ZERO discussion on drug testing if these two men ever come to the negotiation table. Just wait and see...
     
  3. TheBling

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    So let me get this straight, you *****S think it's ok for Floyd to come in heavy 2 lbs against against a career lightweight coming up 2 weight divisions, yet you complain about Pac asking Cotto to come down 2lbs? WHICH ONE IS IT? That's why you guys make me sick. Its this or that, wah wah wah, anything that isn't Floyd's way is blasphemy. It's disgusting.

    I can't deny that Pac put himself in the shitter for not taking the test. My main point is that it wasn't warranted, and it eventually derailed the fight.

    And if it is such an easy fight for Floyd, then why would he let the biggest payday in his career slip by if it was an easy payday?

    Answer this, would you take this "easy fight" and beat that "yellow, power pellet eating midget and cook him with cats and dogs" for 50+ million instead of letting it slip through your hands not once, not twice, but three times?

    He is concerned. No other way to bend it. If he wasn't, this fight would have happened long ago.

    COME ON *****S.
     
  4. TheBling

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    *****, and a fake marine.
     
  5. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What the hell does Haymon have to do with anything when "negotiating" alone? There was nothing to negotiate about since he issued an ULTIMATUM after the Mosley fight. "No test. No fight. No exceptions."

    Unlike Pac, FMJ seems to call his own shots. When he is going for a fight he has no problem going into the press explaining his side. Pac hides behind Arum saying one thing to you *******s and a different thing in the negotiating rooms... RUINING FIGHTS.
     
  6. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When Pac had him completely interested...he did not take the deal, man. And then he let him go off and fight the, perceived at the time, biggest threat in the division. Why do that, if you REALLY want the opportunity? Some chances just don't come around again, when you want them. You need to seize the moment, at that time. Pac did not seize the moment, when the best deal possible (for him) was on the table. He let Mayweather go off and make the $40 mil with Shane, he could've made with him. Had he fought Pac in March, won, and made $40 million in the process, Shane wouldn't have gotten the fight this year either. It appeared to be a 1 shot deal (for this year) from the beginning, when it was all said and done.
     
  7. bald_head_slick

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    Your sorry butt is probably a reservist or some weak branch. :lol:

    You want the truth? You can't handle the truth! :lol:
     
  8. puga_ni_nana

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    don't play dumb. haymon represents floyd as arum represents pac. oscar have been saying that negotiations are going smoothly and it seems that it was until floyd suddenly lose the urge to fight thus wasting haymon, arum and greenburg's time. do you deny that floyd took a vacation and lost his urge?
     
  9. TheBling

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    LOL "branch" ooookkkkkkkkk
     
  10. puga_ni_nana

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    floyd offered a 14 days cut-off and pac offered 24 days. both could not settle and they moved-on. so when pac had to conceed, floyd suddenly took his vacation. there is no other way around it, floyd is happy not to fight pacquiao, whom his dad adviced him not to fight.
     
  11. bald_head_slick

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    It is crystal clear if you look at this realistically.

    These guys just can't fit Pac's actions into any of the models Arum tries to sell! He fights Clottey and not Mayweather or Mosley? But he is about money, legacy, and fans? He fights deteriorated Mosley and not JMM or Berto? But he is about challenge, legacy, and fans? What is it?
     
  12. TheBling

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    Floyd isn't scared of Pac. He hasn't lost his urge.

    Plain and simple, he's concerned about losing and Pac is without a doubt the biggest threat he's ever faced. He is waiting for the right time.

    Too bad for him, Pac is younger. I think he's smart letting Pac get in all these wars with naturally bigger men. It will eventually catch up with Pac.
     
  13. bald_head_slick

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    BS he does. Show me another time since splitting with Arum where Haymon has negotiated a deal without FMJ and Ellerbe? I love how FMJ is wasting their time, but Arum and Pac are lying about what testing they agreed to.

    When you issue an ultimatum there is no reason to negotiate. They agree or they don't. Pac doesn't agree to test. No fight. Time to move on since Mayweather is the number one WW.:deal
     
  14. bald_head_slick

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    No. Pac LIED and said it wasn't offered. Then he admitted it was. Then Roach was saying as long as it is not 10 days. Then they still fought Clottey.

    Pac was busted LYING AGAIN on HBO and you STILL say Pac agreed? :lol:

    Pac is now LYING AGAIN "There are three possible fights." Right Pac. So why in the hell is Mosley tweeting he got the fight BEFORE you release that statement? :huh:lol:
     
  15. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    First of all...cut the ***** **** man. You are conversing with a grown man, right now. Act like it. Secondly, you are jumping all over the place in your statements. You are going on about Floyd coming in heavy against JMM, then Cotto coming in light against Manny. We are not even discussing the ethical aspect of these matters right now. But, you want to go on with this generalizing about how *****s disgust you and this and that....and the way "you guys" think sickens you etc. Enough already. You sound like a kid right now.

    Did I say the fight would be easy? NO...I did not. Did I say he wasn't concerned? NO...I did not. Of course he is concerned. He thinks Manny is on PEDs. No secret there. Asking for a comprehensive test, THEY BOTH TAKE, to ensure things are on the up and up, while outside the norm in boxing, shouldn't have been the cause for the fight not happening. And having negotiated it down to a 14 day window (to accommodate Manny), there was absolutely no way that test should be the reason the fight did not happen. I ain't buying it...period.