Dan Henderson leaving UFC

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by Vitor Belfort, Oct 16, 2009.


  1. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    :patsch Cliche?
     
  2. cdnboxing

    cdnboxing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How in the world does Herring become a top contender after beating Cheick Kongo?

    Are you aware that the same Herring lost to Noguiera and Jake friggin O'Brien prior to that fight? UFC saw Herring as a gatekeeper nothing more. A gatekeeper who is tailor made for all their young HW prospects because he CANT FIGHT WRESTLERS. And Cain, Carwin and Lesnar all happen to be wrestlers.

    Leben wasnt being groomed for anything. They knew his limitations, hes a tough, durable fighter. Thats it. That was a showcase fight for Silva.
     
  3. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    If thoe guys were within one belt then yes more times than not they would fight. We are talking about two MMA in the same org. This is not Le v Silva.

    Plus, this has nothing to do with boxing. It is to do with UFC, Belfort, Henderson and Silva.

    We must always chase an ideal world. We will never achieve it but in chasing it we will get as close to ideal as possible.
     
  4. MaliSlamusrex

    MaliSlamusrex Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It makes sense for Hendo to be a free agent because he is such a big name in USA, Brazil, Japan and the UK he can make the same if not better money than he does in the UFC and because he is such a big star he could do a lot of jobs like commentary and fight promotions.
     
  5. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Hendo has the ability not to be a one hit wonder. I don't think he would worry like Bisping would if he left UFC. Hendo is big business. He is a vet and a legend. He can go strikeforce, dream etc and make money. His legacy is in the UFC but if he is going to leave then financially he shouldn't be too bad.
     
  6. horst

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    Henderson is an ATG. He has enough clout to leave the UFC and still command good fights, but I hope he stays in the UFC. He could fight Marquhart in an eliminator while Silva fights Belfort, then have his rematch with Silva. Alternatively, there are a few good fights for Hendo at 205 or a 195 catchweight. I hope he doesn't leave, but if he does he goes with his head held high, because he is a legend and maybe hasn't been treated with the respect he has earned.
     
  7. Rattler

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    I made the point, because you used boxing as the example with it's ranking system; implying (with intention or otherwise) that boxing is better than the UFC because of it.

    As you allude to, that may be the ideal, but unless what's being chased gets caught, then the idea that it must be better simply because it's being attempted is incorrect, if the idea is not followed through in the actions of those who are supposed to abide by it.

    Is it better than the UFC setup in theory, yes, but it practice, it's not that much better because it doesn't work the way it's supposed to.
     
  8. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    no
     
  9. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Fair enough with the boxing example but I am not implying boxing is better. I am merely alluding to the subject at hand.

    The theory is more idealistic than the practice but given that it is within one org and not the sport as a whole then it is containable and achievable.
     
  10. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Hendo established himself as a legend in PRIDE NOT the UFC. He only fought there once in the UFC middleweight tourney years ago.
     
  11. achillesthegreat

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    I didn't suggest otherwise. Hendo has always been a legend.
     
  12. chuffy

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    Dan Henderson expects to re-sign with UFC, could meet Nate Marquardt next

    Following his UFC 100 knockout victory over Michael Bisping, Dan Henderson found himself in a rare spot for fighters: coming off a UFC win without any contracted fights left.

    While UFC officials may have thought a new deal easily could be reached, the two sides apparently have very different opinions regarding what the 39-year-old fighter's services are worth.

    But Henderson (25-7 MMA, 5-2 UFC), who earned a base pay of $250,000 ($150,00 of which was a win bonus) for the Bisping win, recently told HDNet's "Inside MMA" that he won't be heading to a rival organization.

    "I don't plan on fighting anywhere else," said Henderson, who reportedly met with Strikeforce officials, during the Sept. 18 edition of the show. "It never even entered my mind that I'd be anywhere else. It's just something myself, Dana (White) and the other guys over there at the UFC, we need to sit down and figure it out for my next fight."

    Before and after Henderson's win over Bisping in July, White said the former PRIDE champion would likely be the next to challenge for Anderson Silva's middleweight belt. But Silva, who defeated Henderson via second-round submission in March 2008, and his camp have expressed disinterest in a rematch. Silva, meanwhile, is expected to fight Vitor Belfort at UFC 108 in January.

    Henderson hinted a fight with Nate Marquardt, a fellow top contender who's also suffered a previous loss to Silva, could be next.

    "It doesn't look like it'll be him," Henderson said of Silva. "But my guess is my next two fights will be Marquardt and Anderson Silva. It doesn't matter to me which order they're in."

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  13. achillesthegreat

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    Silva v Belfort
    Hendo v Nate

    Same bill. Make the ****ing fights happen!

    Those 2 fights get me pumped. I would be so psyched for a winner v winner. I don't think the underdogs in those fights would be major upsets. Belfort and Nate are live wires that can win.

    They are talking about JDS v Gonzaga and Evans v Silva on that card. I think it's 108. That is simply too much. UFC would squash boxing that night. If not in the stats but in the hearts and mind of any true combat fan.
     
  14. rekcutnevets

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    I hate it for Henderson. Not that he may end up staying with the UFC, but that Silva may not be his next opponent. I see people posting that Henderson had his shot already, but it is not like he's demanding an immediate rematch. Henderson has 3 quality wins in a row since losing to Silva, and he looked as though he is the only person with a chance of being able to compete with Silva when they did fight.

    If Henderson defeats Marquardt, which is not out of the realm of possibility, he is by far the most deserving challenger Silva has. The UFC should then mandate Silva fight Henderson, or give up the title at 185. If Marquardt wins, the UFC should make him the mandatory.
     
  15. PUMPERG

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    Hopefully they could work it out