Dan Rafael owns Bert Sugar

100% dead on,Zak.
Should one wish to walk down memory lane,then Sugar is your man.Of the older generation,I much prefer someone with true knowledge and has kept up to date,like Larry Merchant or Al Bernstein.:thumbsup

 

Bert Sugar and Dan Rafael aren't the same thing at all. Suger's a historian, Rafael's a reporter. They're both great at what they do, but suck at the rest of it (including picks).

 

Right. Berts job is to tell the tales of the olden days. Dan's job is to report "scoops" and other wide assortments of boxing related news.

 

They both suck!

 

Ask Sugar about his views on Hatton-Pacquiao and he will tell you about the Thrilla In Manila, ask him about Klitschko-Haye and he will tell you about the Thrilla in Manila.

 

Sugar is a joke the guy was not even a Boxing fan until the late 1970's when his career as a Baseball writer went down the tubes. He sucks.

Rafael is good for information but the guy is full of himself and is a shill for Golden Boy Promotions.

 

Anybody who thinks Bert Sugar actually knows what hes talking about is nuttier than a fruitcake. Sugar is not historian or even a journalist. Hes a self promoter who simply regurgitates the same old boxing stories and myths that have been around for years that he stole from the Ring archives (most of which arent true).

 

Sugar's just a storyteller and Rafael gets a lot of scoops. His notebooks always contain some new info.

 

The same Dan Rafael who hasnt seen any fight of Rafal Jackiewicz ?

 

Rafael???? whenever I see something with that fat ****s name on it, I by pass it, and wait for a credible source; you know -- like King Chile or Pacdabest.

 

hmm says... in a pie eating contest

 

The only dude I want to hear talk about Boxing is Al Bernstein. Everybody else can **** off.

 

Whats your motive for saying that?

Bert is the man!!!

 

I like both. Dan Rafael blogs I find is good reading.

 

I've seen Sugar countless times on various boxing shows and he never impresses me with his knowledge or boxing insight. yes, he has followed boxing for many years and it shows, but his points are always weak, his stories not that interesting, etc etc. maybe it's that his mind is 'shot' now but based upon what i've seen over the past few years, sugar is totally unimpressive as a boxing analyst