Dan Rafael's #P4PRank Thoughts: P4P best of the last 25 years

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  1. drenlou

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    It doesn't matter. But I don't think he was draining he was consistently making 155 and 156 for years. Another thing if he's draining because he went up to fight Tarver at 175 you're sadly mistaken.
     
  2. LANCE99

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    You're exaggerating on Cotto. He bot beaten, but it's not like he returned only to look like ****.

    Arguable or not, pacman has the wins in those close decisions. They weren't outright robberies if that's what you want to believe.
     
  3. drenlou

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    Have you ever been beat with bricks? It's arguable Cotto lost to Clottey, and he never should have.
     
  4. tinman

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    It does matter. Size is the most important thing in boxing. Size is so important in this sport we have a handicap called weight classes.
     
  5. LANCE99

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    :patsch except you cannot change which version he actually did win. Your fantasy **** is just that, fantasy ****.:nut
     
  6. drenlou

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    Disagree.. it's skills, not size that matter.
     
  7. LANCE99

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    :patsch bricks... yeah trace amounts of elements equal bricks now. :nut
     
  8. tinman

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    Who wins Deontay Wilder or Ray Leonard. Size is the most important thing in the sport.
     
  9. drenlou

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    If size matters how come Tyson was knocking out bigger guys. If size mattered how come Pac was beating bigger guys. If size mattered how come Cotto moved up weight classes and was succesful? Same with Duran, Chavez, whitaker, JMM.. that's an uneducated overstatement.
     
  10. drenlou

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    Stupid question.
     
  11. tinman

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    Tyson was 215 pounds of tank.

    Sometimes guys can move up in weight and win. But the bigger man will always win if he's got just as much skill.
     
  12. drenlou

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    No... I've seen little guys knock out bigger guys before... Size isn't everything.
     
  13. Pimp C

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    I can look at strengths and weaknesses of guys. The 140 pound version of cotto the one with the shaky chin would have been tooled by pbf. He gets beat at 147 to. The 154 pound version of cotto had the best chance to beat pbf because pbf was never great there and he could somewhat bully pbf there because his feet were slower at that weight and so were his hands. Jmm isn't even worth talking about pbf beats any version of him as he's a stylistic nightmare for him.
     
  14. turbotime

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    Skinny little Tito nearly killed Joppy one fight prior, and Joppy was never did in like that before or after.
     
  15. tinman

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    We always have to talk about what Floyd would have done instead did. He won a boring UD against old Pac. Almost lost to faded DLH. Missed weight against a featherweight with Marquez. Fought Cotto after he had been savagely beaten down twice.

    Its always like Floyd beats any version. Cuz he always fights the shot versions.