Dan Rafael's #P4PRank Thoughts: P4P best of the last 25 years

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  1. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Especially with all of his upset wins. IMO that counts for a lot.

    Pascal, Kessler, Abraham, Dirrell (disputed), Groves, Bute, Johnson, Reid, Taylor

    It's pretty amazing.
     
  2. drenlou

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    It's a lot better than old Gomez, kelly, alicea, Soto, Augie, bungu...ECT
     
  3. Pimp C

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    Yes he did and I like both fighters.
     
  4. Addie

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    There will always be contentious points on lists such as these, but it's literally unjustifiable to rank Andre Ward higher than Erik Morales. On a list of the greatest fighters of the last 25 years, that is absolutely ludicrous.

    Which Finito arguably failed to do. He could have moved up 3lbs and challenged both Humberto Gonzalez and Michael Carbajal at Light Flyweight, but for whatever reason he chose not to. Perhaps someone here could shed light on this issue. Both of those fighters represented a significant step up in quality from the guys he was fighting at Minimumweight.
     
  5. turbotime

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    Big fan of both as well.
     
  6. drenlou

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    What's even worst is to put GGG on the list!:verysad
     
  7. Smithy

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    Pac for me and many others is ranked higher than mayweather in terms of p4pness

    Pac has more wins over HOF and beat bareera who was a p4p great in his prime

    Mayweather has never beaten a prime HOF/ATG fighter in their prime

    Pac is a 8 div champ (should be 10 if he did not jump weight classes)

    Pac is the first fighter to win 4 lineal titles in 4 different weight classes
     
  8. turbotime

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    hey hey he almost won the title 10 years later :smoke
     
  9. Pimp C

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    Too bad your opinion is irrelevant history will be more kind to PBF than Pac.:deal
     
  10. Smithy

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    No it wont

    Who won 4 lineal titles in 4 different weight classes first?

    Pac is a 8 div champ

    Mayweather is a 5 div champ

    Pac has beaten a prime atg/hof

    Mayweather has not

    Pac has had 65 fights

    Mayweather has had 49 fights

    if you look at both resumes its clear who has achieved more in the sport
     
  11. Pimp C

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    Yes it will it already has Ring Magazine did a article with the top 25 fighters since WW2 this was before PBF beat Pac I might add and PBF was ranked 12th on that list. Do you want to know where Pac was ranked? He wasn't. Ring is one exapmle this list by ESPN is another his peers also rate him as greater. Quit living in denial, PBF is the greater fighter and beat him in the ring as well.:deal
     
  12. drenlou

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    Almost isn't good enough!:deal Though I do think he get robbed against Valuev:nod
     
  13. Smithy

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    buster beat tyson does that make him greater? and so on and so on..........

    Pac lost to Singsurat/Torrecampo does this mean they are greater

    Go learn the sport we are talking about greatness here Pac resume is far better

    Pac achieved more in boxing thats the point im talking about
     
  14. drenlou

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    So you think Pac will be ahead of Floyd because he's an 8 division champ?... well it doesn't matter what you think.
     
  15. turbotime

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    Exactly People should quit going on about "Pac beat a hall of fame fighter and Floyd didn't" nonsense.

    Unless you think those guys are greater than Mayweather? Is Junior Jones greater than Mayweather?