Dan Raffael had Wilder winning against Fury

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  1. daverobin

    daverobin Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    idiot
     
  2. Farooq

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    Agreed. A fat old Lennox Lewis stopped a prime Vitali and the casual biased European boxing fans think Vitali won. Fury did nothing but run for 12 rounds and landed 84 punches out of 327. But apparently to people who hate Wilder for a obvious reason and the Brits that equals Tyson Fury boxing circles around Wilder. You don't beat the champ by running.

    Let's put this to perspective. Fat 42 year old Foreman landed 188 punches against the 28 year old 208 pound Holyfield. Yet Fury only lands 84 punches against a slow immobile Deontay Wilder. The heavyweight division is crap.
     
  3. PhillyPhan69

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    I got no dog in this fight as I don’t like HW boxing in general. I scored it a draw and can see either guy winning by 2 depending on whether you favor cleaner harder punches or a slight (very slight) advantage of total punches.
     
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  4. Angler Andrew

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    Then clearly Dan Rafael either doesn’t know what he’s watching,cannot score fights or as I suspect trying to influence folks minds with his agenda(probably on Haymon payroll lol)

    Have to say when I listened on the radio I wasn’t too fussed about the draw as Abel sanchez commentating had it 8/3 fury going into the last round so I figured with that 10/8 round and give him one of the close rounds it would add up.
    Things changed for me when I actually viewed the fight a week later on YouTube,way I saw things was that outside of those two 10/8 rounds I couldn’t give Wilder anything,were I being generous ala how we score for Canelo I could give him round one but still that gives him 5points.
     
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  5. Angler Andrew

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    Admittedly it’s not my thing esp that backhand jab he does which is illegal,that said we all know him w Fury fights,both he and Saunders are Mayweather fans with the safety first thing.
    This wasn’t like the Wlad fight though as Wilder was coming forward albeit with little success,you could say it would be harsh for Wilder to lose his belt given how you normally have to rip the belt away but that seems why we gonna get the rematch where I fully expect Fury to win convincingly as I don’t see him getting hit the same.
     
  6. Gennady

    Gennady Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Was Abel commentating the fight?
     
  7. Angler Andrew

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    He was,BBC radio commentary is actually really good and I still nothing like the biased stuff from Sky,HBO ect...in short you trust their scores.
    Abel Sanchez was the guest commentator for Fury v Wilder and perhaps the best one was Demetrius Andrade who was the guest commentator for Canelo v Golovkin,just a very knowledgeable good guy to call the fight and he had GGG up something like 5-1 after six and then gave Canelo a bunch of rounds thereafter but still had Golovkin winning by two rounds,Mike Costello the BBC commentator had Golovkin winning by just the one round and they did say it was another controversial decision again.
    Abel Sanchez tried his best for Wilder but said he was poor and gave Fury a lot of credit for being away from boxing and exposing wilder.
     
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  8. The Long Count

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    See casual fans like yourself by too much into punch stat numbers. Lot more goes into this sport than that, the punch stat numbers in this fight were deceptive to what was actually happening in the ring. Fury dictated where and when he wanted action to take place. Wilder was outclassed. His power nearly bailed him out but it didn’t. And yes espn is in the tank for Wilder, he makes their top 10 p4p list. Explain that.
     
  9. Farooq

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    Lol no real boxing fans like me know that if you land 7 punches per round to the other guys 5.9 punches per round you aren't dominating him. Who cares what Tyson Fury dictated? He still didn't land but 84 punches in 12 rounds. Wilder was out classed by what? Fury running and making weird faces in the ring? Also the Brits and biased fans like you aren't in the tank for Fury?
     
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  10. The Long Count

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    Biased because I feel Fury won by a significant margin, news flash most people do, Wilder got exposed no reason to be triggered over it. Oh and I’m American. I gave Fury 9 rounds and he happened to Win the rounds he was knocked down in as well: meaning outside of Wilder’s power giving him two rounds I would have scored the bout 11-1 Fury.
    Does this mean I think Fury is great, no but he proved me wrong I picked Wilder to win. And boy was I really wrong. Fury now has an official win over an old Wlad and an unofficial win over Wilder. Not too bad.
     
  11. Dario Argento

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    There are far too many alts on this site, cant disagree with that
     
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  12. The Long Count

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    They lose their temper when their agenda gets exposed. Throw fits and come back under another name to save face. Just keyboard casual fanboys.
     
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  13. Dario Argento

    Dario Argento The exotic Waitress banned Full Member

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    These alts tend to be members for 3 weeks or a month

    Most Golovkin or Wlad haters have Alts.
     
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  14. The Long Count

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    Wlad haters are especially clueless.
     
  15. BCS8

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    You sound like a genuine poster dude :)