Dan Raphael an Andre Ward nuthugger?

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  1. bigeddie27

    bigeddie27 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He will. Bute cannot fight on the inside like ward does.
     
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  3. dhralf

    dhralf **** the queen! Full Member

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    Yep, like Green.....:blood
     
  4. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    damn ****ing right!
     
  5. WesT

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WNI3_-oOek[/ame]

    It won't be safe going in against Bute
     
  6. Maxime

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    I'm not putting down Ward's skills. I'm putting down his style.

    People have been bashing Hopkins, Ruiz and other fighters with negative styles for years but for some reasons Ward should get a free pass for the borefest he puts on.
     
  7. Don Q

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    It would've never crossed my mind that a hopkin's fan would like Ward's style :lol:
     
  8. Don Q

    Don Q Active Member Full Member

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    This.
     
  9. bigeddie27

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    Yes it will. Bute's version of fighting on the inside is to hold out the oppenet with his right hand and body, leaving himself room to wind up with a left hand. He pushes out with his right side to make room for his left. There is no way in hell that is going to work with ward. Ward is a master on the inside, this much I am certain. Look at the bute/ward fight going exactly as kessler and green's. If you guys cannot see ward being undisputed champ now, then you prolly will never until it happens.
     
  10. bigeddie27

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    He does night fight like hopkins or Ruiz. When ward gets inside he doesnt clinch, he uses his body and feet. Its not his fault his center of gravity is lower so he can establish himself better. He exploits this masterfully. And he throws powerful, meaningful punches on the inside too. Just watch the **** in slowmo and see for yourself.

    Hopkins would clinch, and then try for headbutts nonstop not even throwing punches (and I am talking an older hopkins, not vintage early 90's beastly hopkins). Ruiz just clinches and throws one or two meaningless punches trying to survive and not even win.
     
  11. WesT

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    Bute is a counter-puncher he has excellent timing and accuracy. Ward can be caught with something stepping in(his fast and powerful Uppercut or that short fast left hook).Once he gets in Bute knows how to use his shoulder(push) his hands(push) and he'll be pivoting to . In contrast with Green who doesn't know how to fight stepping back Bute is great at it. It's harder to get inside of an opponent that has good footwork and always moving back from you waiting for a mistake (no necessary a punch .. it can be a wrong movement ) and counter you.
    The only problem with Bute is that he doesn't seems to know how to use the clinch good.
     
  12. bigeddie27

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    What I think will happen if bute winds upwith the left is that andre will get in at an angle to completly smother it. Thats andre's key to victory at least in my eyes. And bute is no joke, dont get that ****ed up. I just see andre (with his lower center of gravity, he will be the shorter one), forcing bute away from favorable positions.

    I can also see andre going southpaw that whole fight. I think he is better in that position.
     
  13. WesT

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    This will be troublesome for Bute i think.
     
  14. aliviu_emilian

    aliviu_emilian Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Oh, I lost my breath....Give me a break...Ward needed 12 for who Bute needed 3 and now will distroy him?You americans watched too much Star Trek...
    Ward declared before Bute-Zuniga he is still a young lion and roots for Bute.Now, before this match declared Bute needs to beat the winner of Super Six to prove he`s the best.SO HE RECOGNIZES THAT BUTE IS NO.1 OR NO. 2 AND SHOWS SOME RESPECT AND YOU CAN CALL IT EVEN FEAR.
    And after a match with a guy that Miranda did beat Ward proclaims himself No.1.:yep
     
  15. aliviu_emilian

    aliviu_emilian Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Oh, what a surprise, fat man Rafael is a Ward fan!

    First, he`s a good american, so nothing remains to say...

    By the way, before Bute-Miranda, Rafael and other Ward fans, some of them on this forum didn`t bother to hide their rooting for Miranda and a much expected fail of Bute...

    After the fight, guess what? Not a single row about Bute`s victory.Just a short recognition a few days later under the Lucian`s position in the renewed rankings....
    Remember Ward-Miranda.Ward was praised with a great victory...after 12

    Biasing make this people who demand money to show their P4P personal rankings to show their real character