Dan Raphael's Report on Margo's Illegal Hand Wraps

Its a real shame on the hand wraps issue. We should all hold judgement until a full report is presented from the Athletic Comission as there are two stories out there, the Margarito team is not worried in the least, HBO tends to dramatize everything, and its possible that the Mosley Team was trying to do everything to get into Margo's head.

Unfortunately there are some in this forum that will use this for the moment spread their hate and dance on Margo's defeat.

 

hehe, battle of the cheaters, I like that.

 

why is this big to you guys for?

when i broke a story on Felix Trinidad using a plaster like substance on his wraps before the hopkin fight, many of you were like "oh, its no big deal"


Now this is a big deal?

 

Tito was putting to much tape on his hands. Marg inserted a plastic over his knuckles under the wrap. big difference

 

NOONE ever accused Tito of having an illegal substance in his wraps...

What Trinidad's camp was doing was applying the knuckle pad and heavily wrapping it with tape, then wrapping the gauze around the area that was taped so you couldn't tell by looking at it. It was very illegal and very dangerous. It wasn't until his fight with Bernard Hopkins that it was detected by Hopkins cornerman Nazim Richardson. When his hand was inspected by the commission, they said it was very hard.

That was illegal and was deemed so by the commission before the fight. Spin it however you want, its what happened. Use google...

Ummmm, yes, they did.

That was reported in the article by Kevin Iole...the same article you said was spot on. And has also been reported by many other sources.

You have said on multiple occasions that its just "Nazim up to his old tricks"...as it he is the bad guy in this. He saw an abundance of tape (which is illegal in a hand wrap...no idea why your dancing around this) and asked for a rewrap...as he wasnt present during the original one. The commission INSPECTED THE WRAP AND AGREED!!! How is this him "up to his old tricks"?

I agree and have said MANY TIMES on this very post that I hope it isnt true. But to hear the defense from Margo's corner being that they miswrapped BOTH of his hands (in an illegal fashion mind you...) just seems funny to me.

One, you keep insinuating that all of this info is coming from Cotto's corner...when it was in fact the commission who did so.

Two, you act like I am condemning him because I am stating the facts...not slanting them.

As I said, I hope its not true...but Im skeptical after hearing everything. I really do hope its not...Margo is someone I respect the **** out of.

 

Again, no illegal substance was ever found in Trinidads handwraps.......Nazim calling them illegal does'nt make it so. Plenty of trainers including Emmanuel Steward voiced that he did'nt think the way Trinidad Sr wrapped hands was illegal.

.....and the same thing here.....so far its been only alleged but the facts have not come out.
When the lab results are in, we shall know.......


Something similar happened in the early 80's in a fight involving Alexis Arguello and Billy Costello.......the Costello camp voiced there displeasure to the commision and the commision made Arguello who had been wrapping his own hands all his career, rewrap.......Arguello was mad as hell they were making him re-wrap, and it showed in his performance in the first 3 rounds as he was fighting mad as hell trying to take Costello out with a single shot.......

Arguello settled down in the fourth round, worked a few jabs and body shots in, and then short circuited and dropped Costello with a laser pointed right hand bomb on Costello's chin.....he finished Costello soon after......

There have been incidents like this before, but I have not once heard of an instance in a big fight where something illegal was factually found in a fighters wraps.

In the Resto case with Panama Lewis, the commmision was lax and not doing there job.....no one was actually there from the commission and Panama was taking the paddings out of Resto's gloves, and then sewing them back up.:-(

 

:rofl:rofl

 

"Officials found what one doctor described as plaster of Paris hidden in the wrapped hands of Antonio Margarito shortly before the welterweight champion's title defense against Shane Mosley on Saturday at the Staples Center, leading to accusations that Margarito may have been trying to cheat.

According to Judd Burstein, the attorney for Mosley, Margarito had wet pads in the wrapping. Mosley's doctor, Robert Olvera, likened the material to the type of plaster used to make casts.
"It gets hard and mobile," said Olvera, who said he scratched the pad and "flakes of plaster of Paris" came off.

Burstein said he seized the pad removed from the wrapping and another pad found in Margarito's dressing room. Both were placed in a sealed box that was given to Dean Lohuis of the California Boxing Commission for further study.

Burstein said representatives of both boxers "discussed this exact issue" at Friday's rules meeting "and they went ahead and violated it."

After the suspicious pads were removed from Margarito's dressing room, the boxer's hands were rewrapped and the fight went off on time. Because the violation was caught before Margarito stepped into the ring, Margarito's camp will likely be subject to little more than a disciplinary action if the substance is found to be illegal.

Nazzim Richardson, the trainer for Mosley, was the first to notice something unusual about Margarito's wrap job and asked officials to take the tape off. That's when the foreign substance was discovered, seized and placed in a box for investigation after the bout.

"That's a serious offense," an official with Golden Boy, Mosley's promoter, said. "That's cheating."..."

-- Kevin Baxter and Lance Pugmire

 

:rofl

 

Stereotype.... :-(

 

:deal

 

Not true...as I explained above. Only thing right is that Tito didnt have an illegal substance in them...what he did do was wrap them ILLEGALLY!

Again, not true...as it was the executive director of the California State Athletic Commission stated that an illegal substance was found in Margo's wraps. I have shown you the quote over and over, yet you still state the same bs.

I can agree with all of that...but you are continuously degrading Nazim for doing absolutely nothing wrong in not just tonights fight...but also in the Tito fight. Both times he was backed up by the commission.

I hope you are 100% right bro, as I respect Margo immensely...but please stop slanting and misrepresenting the facts.

 

Unfortunately it looks like this is the case.


Got some newfound respect for Emmanuel Steward tonight when Lampley immediately try to stain Margo's victory over Cotto by insinuating that Margo may have done the same vs Cotto......

I like how Emmanuel did'nt elaborate and condemn Margarito as Lampley was doing and simply said, illegal or not, it had nothing to do with the fight outcome tonight......Steward said something to the effect, "Margarito could have had cast iron on those gloves and it would'nt have made any difference. Shane just did'nt give Margarito room!"

 

Goodness......off of reading this, I'd like to know how Margarito's trainer slipped in Plaster of Paris from right underneath the noses of the commision inspectors and somebody from Mosely's camp there as well!

Truthfully that is really hard to believe that they put enough plaster in there that they're scraping the flakes off of it.
God that just sounds like somebody is really exaggerating what really happened in that dressing room.

Any reports that they confiscated the box of Plaster of Paris?

 

You do know it looks just like regular hand wrap right...dont you. It is simply guage with plaster. Plaster is white..you know. Gets hard when wet...you know..it was wrapped in between regular wrap. Something you dont do unless you are used to doing it.

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