Dan Raphael's Report on Margo's Illegal Hand Wraps

The plaster we're talking about here comes in powder form, when applied, it would have left a trail on the person applying it like a 2 year old trying to hide the fact he ate chocalate cake......

Applying plaster to the wraps right in front of inspectors noses and getting away with it is something that just does'nt make any sense

The plaster would have been all over the hands of the person that applied it.

 

You do know that powder comes off of the wrap I just posted right. :rofl Never had a cast.....

 

Before passing judgement I'd like to see the outcome of the investigation. If he is guilty, then he really is up **** creek.

 

Explain yourself then, cause I'm just not following you.....
....how do you suppose that they sneeked the plaster in Margarito's wraps right in front of everyone there inspecting......you do know that the plaster comes in powder form right off that bag?

How did they get the plaster out of the bag and onto Margarito's wraps right in front of everyone there without leaving a powder trail not only in the wrappers hands, but in Margaritos hands as well......

Had they applied plaster to Margarito's wraps, he'd likely would have come in contact with the plaster on his wrists and fingers.

Explain to all of us how all this happened?

 

Its fairly simple. You are talking about ****ing powder. Who the **** says that they just put a punch of powder in his glove. The plaster cast was in between his wraps. They have plaster wraps.. you dont have to believe me. Believe HBO and the people that were there. They dont broadcast **** unless it has been confirmed. The cast was already made and they found more in his dressing room. Whatever it is, it is not regular hand wraps. Nobody is saying he used an insane amount but one or two layers.

 

:goodThats what I'm saying.

......and if its found that indeed it was plaster, the commision along with the Mosely camp is going to have a hell of a time explaining how all this happened right in front of their noses.

Its just unbeilevable to me that this could happen with so the inspectors and people from the opposing camp right there.

One thing is to accuse someone of using too much gauze, but another altogether is to have them slip plaster right in front of their noses.

 

For the last time, the wrap was done WITHOUT anyone present outside of Margo's own camp. Its why Richardson asked to inspect it himself and had the commission do the same.

You keep saying that you want to see the facts, but you keep ignoring EVERY SINGLE REPORT BEING REPORTED!!!!

:huh

 

So they put plaster wraps on Margarito and it did'nt leave any residue on his hand?
Is that what you're telling me?

Had this been the case, the commision would have held up the fight and have someone come over and take pictures of Margarito's bare hand after he took the wraps off.

In any case, it does'nt take long to verify if indeed it was plaster........
If it was plaster, my guess is that the public will know by tommorow.......
.....if it was something else of nothing, it'll likely take a few days to have more extensive lab tests done on the wraps.

 

Its hard to explain something like that to a guy who said JMM is a C level fighter!

 

Give me a link to a report where someone other than the Mosely camp is saying it was plaster?

The link before that you gave me has and INTERIM guy from the California athletic commision reporting that it was an illegal substance, but nowhere but from the Mosely camp has anyone said it was plastic or plaster.

 

Another thing that I'm pondering......
....does'nt the boxing commision supply the fighters with the approved wraps, tapes, gloves, etc....in a sealed bag at the dressing rooms.


How stupid that in fights of this magnitude that camps could walk into their dressing rooms and start wrapping the hands or their fighter with just any kind of gauze and tape.

You would think that the commision would make sure the fighters are using the material that they should imo supply!

Does anybody know if the camps are allowed to use their own gauze and tape?

 

I have left plenty of links with the commission claiming the found an ILLEGAL SUBSTANCE for you...but you have ignored them. Whether its plaster or silly putty really isnt the point I have been trying to make to you on this subject, its that its been confirmed by the COMMISSION, not just Mosely's camp that it was in fact that....AN ILLEGAL SUBSTANCE!!!

They also said that they have taken it to be tested to find out what it really was.

I love how you keep bringing up Mosely's camp assertions and dismissing them as bs, yet you take Margo's camps assertion at face value. Even tho it doesnt make an ounce of sense.

The commision is stating that it was an illegal substance...this we know to be true.

Mosely's team states that it was a plaster type substance...this remains to be seen and we should, as you said wait for the tests from the commission to come back.

Margo's team states they wrapped his hands wrong and that it was just an excess of wrapping mixed with sweat that hardened...which is horse****, and if true IS STILL AN ILLEGAL HANDWRAP. Stray pieces of handwrap does not harden when it mixes with sweat, it clumps. And even then, the ILLEGAL SUBSTANCE (deemed by the COMMISSION!!!), was found on both hands. So what they are attempting to have us believe is that a very experienced corner, mis-wrapped BOTH of his hands???

And this is what you are taking as face value? atsch

As I have said, I have had immense respect for Margo for a very long time...and I am honestly hoping it does come back as just an illegal handwrap, not an illegal substance. But what you have done throughout this whole thread is mis-represent facts, disregard any report that doesnt jive with what you consider the truth, and just plain make **** up (saying Nazim watched the hands get wrapped).

Again, in your eyes, every report is wrong except the one that backs your hope. And I understand you have the same hope as I do...but do without the obvious agenda please.

 

I dont take second hand **** at facing value from you or anyone.

When the commision facts come out, thats when we condemn or dont condemn......

In the meantime when someone is quoted as saying they found an illegal substance in someone's wrap, it is second hand and invalid until its confirmed to have been said by the official commision, which has'nt been done at this point.

If you have any sense, you'd know that the media misquotes all the time.

The interim commision guy could have said we confiscated in a bag what appeared to have been an illegal substance.....and have someone else interpret it and write, that he "confiscated an illegal substance.

You with you Bernard Hopkins avatar are hogwashingly stating you have the utmost respect for Margarito and hope its not true, but then you go on and condemn the man on second hand heresay.

Lets wait and we'll see......like I said, I've heard HBO's version of events and I've already seen both Margarito and his trainer first hand say they're not worried at all about the issue.
.....and from what I saw, there was'nt any worry at all in their faces.

 

so right about now, is Cotto mad pissed that he was fighting a boxer with stones in his gloves who gave him his only loss, or is he mad happy knowing that the only reason he lost is because he was fighting a boxer with stones in his gloves?

 

Fact : it was not Nazim who put up a stink about Tito wraps it was Bouie Fisher who discovered Tito hand was wrapped illiagly and that it was sign off with out anyone from the Hopkins camp veiwing the wraps, which in itself is illigal .