Dana White: Dissolving of PRIDE Fighting Championships a “Possibility”

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  1. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Suck my dick :good
     
  2. Koa

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    One thing the UFC can do is meet prides weight classes halfway. Increasing cap on weight limits by a little and removing the cap for heavyweight so naturally huge guys can come in and fight, like Mark Hunt. It's not like its going to be a freak show, if you get fat lops in there they are going to be dismantled quickly.

    Maybe another thing they can do is keep their lightest weight class as is? I don't remember off the top of my head what the weight classes were, but then they might also introduce a yearly, or bi yearly Grand Prix, with everything from lightweight to middleweight compete, and everything from light heavy and heavy compete.

    Thats just the best way I can picture it. It allows for more belts to be held, more cards and more opportunity for so many fighters.

    For Grand prix fights, maybe they could be held in a ring with rules as close as possible to prides, and have them held out of country where rules can be more easily adjusted.
     
  3. Smith

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    Mate, you don't have a dick. You continually embarress yourself with your opinions on this, especially your picks on the ufc ultmate card.:patsch

    Oh dear, go and read some books ****wit
     
  4. Dostoevsky

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    It makes them fight because there are 90 degree right angles.
    Due to these right angles it is much easier to cut a fighter off,hem him in and force him to start fighting.

    Since the octagon is so massive and essentially circular in shape, a fighter can dance around and move away from the opponent alot more easily.
    PRIDE fights are for the whole, more exciting than UFC fights,because the ring forces them to fight.

    The restarts? big deal, it takes 5 seconds to put the fighters to the middle of the ring.
    The ring is dangerous? I always thought that claim was bull****,how many fighters have fallen out the ring and injured themselves that they can't continue to fight? few,if any
     
  5. Smith

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    Mate, don't even humour the guy beebs, he doesnt know what he's talking about!
     
  6. Beebs

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    A fighting arena should be uniform and safe, the cage is neither. The biggest fighter in the sport, in the biggest fight in the sport, fell through the ropes in a fairly high paced point in the fight and was lucky not to have been a few more inches out or Fedor vs CroCop would have ended as a big dissapointment.

    Ropes encourage fighters who are being GnP'd to duck under the ropes and get a restart, taking away from the advantage gained by the offensive party. Groundfighting is just not ment for a ring, look at Ebenezer Fontes Braga triangling Brandon Lee Hinkle using the ropes as part of the choke, or the ref dragging an unconscious Sakuraba back in through the ropes against Smirnovas giving him extra time for him to set up his amazing comeback, but also setting him up for further brain damage. Fedor vs Lindland was another fight that showed the ring as being a pain in the ass.

    You can grab both a cage and a rope (although you can get your whole hand around a rope), but you cant duck under a cage, and you can't fall through a cage, assuming the idiot in charge of securing the door does his job. (Southworth vs Irvin)

    The cage is a more pure form of MMA than the ring, which forces frequent interference of a third party, which stops momentum and just flat out looks stupid.
     
  7. Beebs

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    Believe me, I've seen more MMA cards than you have fights, and the cage is the consistantly better arena for MMA.

    Also, I explained my picks are on an expected value system, and I didn't see anybody else with the balls to post their picks, except for ufoalf who said he picked everybody I didn't. People also thought I was crazy for picking Kos over Diego, or Hendo over Silva.
     
  8. Smith

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    I picked kos over diego, and hendo over silva, fact! And by you saying youve seen more cards than i have fights just shows me how ridiculous you are, how the hell would you know that or prove it, even if it was true?:nono
     
  9. Beebs

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    Estimation based on the fact that you only seem to have any information or opinon, bias and wrong as both may be, on one organization, rather than the sport as whole.
     
  10. Smith

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    Get a grip smart guy
     
  11. bigG

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    i prefer the cage....i think it gives more elements of 'real world' combat to mma......the ring has its plus points too, but i really think the cage gives ufc franchise a usp that other ring based combat lacks...
     
  12. AJAX

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    I prefer the cage also. nothing worse then guys going under the ropes or through the ropes, it's more realistic of a "real" fight where a guy can get pinned against the cage and pummeled.And having 10 japs all slapping your hands when you grab the ropes is very humerous.
     
  13. Koa

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    After all I've seen against the cage I think it can be sorta lame at times. Your allowed to stuff a guys head against it and use it as an indirect weapon, then I sorta feel guys should be able to grab onto it and use it to hold themselves too to prevent from being slammed. In one sentence we say it bring real world into the picture, but in the next sentence we say they cant actually hold onto the cage which is why I would rather see all or none. Just me though, I prefer to see full work on the ground, I don't really enjoy seeing guys getting stuffed against it and not being able to use it defensively.
     
  14. Nuke

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    I agree plus I also agree with the guy earlier that said the ring gives it alittle more class, this is a big reason why it took so long for the sport to get big in the states, the japanese have been holding these types of events for years and never had that "human ****-fighting" stigma to it. Oh and as far as being dnagerous with guys falling out of the ring do what the IFL did and put a 4 foot wide platform around the outside of the ring, works pretty good for them.
     
  15. SweetScienceFan

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    The ropes hold up action too much. Also, The ring gives you too much room to move around. I would much rather see the cage fights.