Dana White Says MMA Purses 'Smoke' Boxing's

and please correct me if I'm wrong, but after thinking about this for another 5 minute....isn't Dana trying to compare a company(the pay scale in the UFC) with a sport(Boxing)..

Isn't that comparing apples with oranges ?

Isn't that a double standards ?

 

Dana White paid a guy 45k to fight Lesnar for the Heavyweight championship. Can you imagine a Boxer fighting for the heavyweight Championship and getting paid 45k? :roflatsch

Folks, Dana White is full of ****. I don't see how the guys that are getting paid 10k are even making it. After taxes that is about 5.5k and then subtract training expenses, food, and other stuff and what is left? Not much. I don't see how they do it.

Yes, White does pay a few of his 'pet' fighters very good. He plays favorites. But 95% of UFC fighters don't make crap for what they are doing. Is it really worth it to have your face turned to raw hamburger for 20k? Is it? :huh

And don't even get me started on the super duper secret locker room 'bonus' checks. :roflatsch

 

I'm not sure its even Apples and Oranges as he routinely compares a Sport with a Franchise when the two have no relation whatsoever. There is no commonality. In addition the fan comparisons with the NFL/NBA etc are equally as ridiculous. The UFC is a franchise end of story. It's not a league and doesn't operate as such. Its a singular business entity part of a larger parent company. Its beholden soley to itself and can do as it pleases within the confines of its business. That effectively is no different to any other boxing promotion -if you want a similar parallel- such as Golden Boy or DKP.
But facts have never bothered Dana when promoting his brand. He is liable to say literally anything.

 

Carwin made $40k for the "Biggest fight in UFC history" as it was called by Zuffa. Lesnar on the hand made a cool $400k. Granted they have bonuses etc on top but its all meaningless as no one other than the fighters and the UFC know what the figures are. Of which these bonuses/sponsors/promos vary greatly especially for a guy like Brock who would have made well in excess of $400k because he made his name in the WWE. And herein lays a BIG problem for the UFC. Many of its stars made their names ELSEWHERE or in multiple promotions. Very few were home grown. And the ones that were really carried the brand in the early days such as Tito/Couture/Chuck.

 

And Floyd and Manny became supertars because of Oscar.

They are now in the position of Oscar when it comes to being a draw.

Who has gottin that big rub off of them and become bigger?

Cotto is still the same.

Ortiz is still a joke.

Bradley is super boring and will never be any sort of draw.

Marquez is old, and would only get so much more out of beating Manny than he already has.

Manny and Floyd have managed to trancend audiences, much like Oscar.

Can someone like Canelo or Chavez Jr trancend just being a big named Mexican fighter?

I don't think Chavez is skilled enough to, since his losses will probably add up before he has a shot about being that guy.

I dunno about Canelo tho. He looks alright, but I don't see him being that top guy either.

 

Fair enough.

So to make a "good" comparison we would need to check the number for, let's say GBP and the UFC ?? Something like that ??

 

IMHO if want to compare them then yes. As both are promotions and both are separate business entity's. But even that would be an unfair comparison as GBP is minuscule in comparison to the UFC who have well over a decade over GBP. Plus remuneration in boxing is entirely different to the UFC who essentially 'own' their fighters.

 

oscar helped, but mayweather would still have become a ppv star without oscar, he nearly lost that fight anyway so you cant say it propelled him into stardom, as for manny if you take out oscar he still would have moved up in weight and destroyed hatton cotto clottey marg

chavez will never be a ppv star never, a few years who knows who it will be but the prospects that are about are very promising and it only takes a few decent wins to fill a void, their will always be boxing fans that wil pay for a ppv, there will always be someone to top a bill as the number 1 boxer p4p and get a nice paycheck, there will always be promoters queing up to put on decent undercard fights and make some dollar

 

He is lying. The UFC like to isolate an example like ESPN FNF or Ward vs Dawson.

 

Good read here guys...

 

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This is why you build fighters up before putting them on PPV, not letting people watch old fights on YT ****s them even more. Literally ridiculous that they stop people seeing as it helped build the sport.

What you're forgetting is that boxing is a global sport there are big local boxers Froch is better known than any UFC fighter In Britain I'd imagine, David Haye definitely is. Similarly JMM is on tv and a big name in Mexico, Morales aswell. Don't even need to go into Pacquaio in the Phillipines. If you think boxing is a dying sport or that someone won't come in and become a new star you are much mistaken.

 

You have directly contradicted yourself in two successive posts. :-(

So these "quality posters" lost interest in the sport? But you said that "if you like MMA that's hardly going to change dependant on who's at the helm."

So did those quality posters not actually like MMA? :huh

And how exactly do you figure the sport "has waned" from 5-6 years ago?

What metric are you using to arrive at that conclusion? :huh

I mean, I know I'm a ****** and you're the expert, but I can't understand your reasoning. Please explain it to me, so that I can learn. :conf

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But the problem is, we don't have any idea how much they earn. :conf

How much does Cody McKenzie earn in sponsorships? We have no clue, so it's a bit dishonest to moan that they are getting ripped off for a start.

How much should Cody earn? He's a pretty ordinary fighter. Some fans like him because of his look and attitude. Some disrespect him because he's not very skilled, Most don't know who he is, and they'll never see him in title contention. Is he worth $150k a year? That would be overpaying him, IMO.

Does he fight 3x/year and earn 30k before taxes? I doubt it. If Cody makes similar money to a qualified tradesman around his age, IMO that would be enough.

We all have a different definition of "fair". Instead of Chael getting paid $10 million to lose against Anderson, I'd rather he gets paid $4 million and they spend $6 million on TUF: Deutschland vs Nederland. Fighters getting $20 million plus paydays has crippled boxing, and I just don't understand why guys like Nam Phan deserve to earn 300k or 500k per year, like some would have the UFC pay them. :good

I mean, look at the abuse Cheick Kongo takes on here every time he fights. But the same guys who call him a bum are saying he doesn't get paid enough. According to these guys, Kongo should be clearing a million bucks or more every year. But at the same time, they have no respect for the skills he brings to his trade. :conf

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