Dana White Says MMA Purses 'Smoke' Boxing's

"It's all meaningless" and you know damned well that Carwin was paid bonuses that significantly upped his purse.

But you'll still keep repeating "Carwin made $40k" even though you know it's not true, because repeating it is just another way to bash Zuffa. Which is all you wanted in the first place.

GSP - UFC product.
Jones - UFC product.
Cigano - UFC product.
Cain - UFC product.
Mir - UFC product.
Rashad - UFC product.
Chael - UFC product.

Then there are the guys like Rory MacDonald and Stefan Struve who will be in the UFC and fighting top-level guys for years to come.

You are living in the past, scurla.

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In the last 12 months, I've sat down to watch live fights on free TV involving:

Junior dos Santos
Cain Velasquez
Benson Henderson
Rashad Evans
Chael Sonnen
Michael Bisping
Shogun Rua
Lyoto Machida
Joe Lauzon
Chris Weidman
Damian Maia
Phil Davis
Clay Guida
Nate Diaz
Josh Koscheck
Johnny Hendricks
Alan Belcher
Jim Miller (twice)
Melvin Guillard
Alexander Gustafsson
Thiago Silva
Brian Stann


Not bad at all, I'd say. A lot of name fighters, including champions, former champions, several established PPV headliners. Several prospects and future champions, and some big names.

Compare that to the boxers you get a chance to watch on free TV. :yep

Completely agreed. How much money are they really making on DVDs? It should be so a hardcore fan says to a casual "Benson Henderson is defending his title this weekend", the casual says "Who is he?" and you show him Henderson-Guida on YouTube and now the guy is interested to see Benson fight again.

Agreed.

But boxing is a global sport with an established tradition spanning more than a century.

Ten years ago, the average Brit probably thought that cage fighting was illegal, and he wouldn't have been far wrong. It sure as hell wasn't an actual real sport in England. Now it is, and they're filling arenas and holding expos. :good

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To be honest I think this whole "secret bonus" stuff is a load of bull****. I'm sure they exist but I think Dana over plays them in a big way, the way he is you know if they were substantial he would be telling people exactly how much he was paying his fighters.

Maybe I didn't make myself clear I'm not bothered about what a fighter is earning I only used those somewhat dubious figures as an example. All I want is fighters getting a FAIR wage for their fights. That means creating a fair method of paying fighters and to me if is around the $30k mark for a main card fight that simply isn't fair considering how big the ufc is. I'd prefer them to pay fighters a better wage than constantly buying out competition.

Also I think if you think a lower end main card fighter earning under $100,000 a year is fair I disagree. A fighters career and life are shorter than the average and their pay should reflect that. Obviously its entertainment so if you bring in revenue your pay should reflect the amount you bring in.

Well you've embarassed yourself I have seen Tyson Fury, Eubank Jr and Dereick Chisora all for free on British TV :thumbsup. Yeah you can get free events I forget because most of them aren't free in the UK. However, YT/Internet videos are huge for the growth of everything these days. Exactly if someones keen enough to buy the DVD the fact they can watch it on YT probably is irrelevant. Not to mention that PPVs should be the rareity rather than the rule for anything trying to grow.

 

Everything Dana White says is bull****.

 

Yeah I think it smacks of bull**** too, but then I kind of like it as well. **** having your exact earnings be public knowledge as a condition of fighting with the UFC. I wouldn't go for that if I were a fighter. :bart And I don't get the impression that the name fighters are badly paid. I suspect that Bisping, for example, is comfortably into millionaire status. As he should be.

And I honestly don't think that guys like Cody McKenzie and Nam Phan should be making enough money to save for retirement. I just don't see them as being worth $200k or $300k or more per year. And especially not if that kind of money is expected to come from the UFC itself, and doesn't include outside sponsorships. :conf

But then again, Nam Phan can push his yearly income up to that $200k level. He just needs to distinguish himself with his performances, and earn a couple of post-fight bonuses. :good

Everyone has a different definition of "fair." :good

And we can't really talk **** on the earnings if we don't know them. Scurla has been quoting $40 grand for Carwin for years now, and we all know that's not true. We just don't know how not true it is.

If the pay was that bad then the fighters would revolt. But I haven't heard much talk of a fighter's union, or any kind of collective organization. :conf

It's the UFC's problem that fighting is a short career? They can't get another job after their fighting career is over? :huh

The highlighted part is important. Guys that bring in revenue by their specific presence on a card do get paid. Koscheck was never a champion. But he made himself well known to the fans, stuck around for years, and is now rich as hell. People tuned in to see him fight, so he got paid.

Guys who are just filler, who have no following, no noteworthy skills, sell no tickets and can be replaced without even changing the advertising for the card? Why should they be earning more than a doctor or an engineer of the same age? :conf

Great. Three British-level fighters. Awesome. That sure put my list of twenty-plus name fighters, including six current or recent champions, to the sword. :good

Ah, well sucks for you.

What do you mean they aren't free, anyway? Do you not get a Fox Sports feed? :conf

Seems stupid to me, to prevent old fights being on YouTube. And I agree that there is no need for a PPV every month.

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for **** sake haggis you ****, no one here is arguing that cody mckenzie should be getting good dollar, he is terrible and shouldnt be in the UFC fullstop

stop defending dana you **** sucker, dana said his purses smoke boxing everyone disagrees bar you you ****ing mong

 

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Made my ****ing day

 

Well that's the point, people ARE arguing that Cody McKenzie should be earning $100k plus. Cody does suck, but he is an established UFC veteran and he has a small fanbase. So apparently, the UFC should be paying him enough that he can put money away for his retirement. But apparently he's exempt from this requirement, because you don't think he should be in the UFC to begin with. So he doesn't need "good dollar" after all, just a living wage will do after all. atsch

And nobody has yet explained what Cheick Kongo is actually worth. According to this forum he sucks, has no skill and is a joke, and should expect the UFC to pay him $1 million per year at minimum as a base wage. atsch

Feel free to "disagree" while having no ****ing clue what either boxers or UFC guys are earning in reality. Your estimates of their earning power are wild guesses based on next to no information. :-( But you'll act like you're the guy's manager and scream that the pay isn't enough, despite having no clue what the numbers are. Who's the ****ing mong? atsch

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Reading that post was the highlight of a twenty-four hour span of your life? :huh Sucks to be you.

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Truth.
Haggis is merely a fan boy of the UFC and wouldn't know a hustle if it happened in his own house.UFC relies on clowns like Haggis to support this garbage.

 

He's going down swinging.

 

your deluded you little *****, show me one person on here that thinks mckenzie should be getting 100k, this forum has a majority of good posters (your not one of them) who would know cody mckenzie does not belong in the UFC. He has folded from body shots twice in fights i have seen him in, he is a joke who you are using to support your poxy argument.

This thread was about what dana white said about his purses smoking boxing and to stop looking like a complete tool you have brought in mckenzie and kongo saying they dont deserve big paydays, well a blind ****** knows that already and no one on here thinks they should be on good money especially mckenzie, if i recall im sure you done something similar on another thread where me and stoo owned your ass

yeah your the mong haggis, you know **** all and try to let on you know mma by siding with the dirty tactics of the UFC and zuffa, from the replies in this thread its clear no one likes reading your **** and your threads are wank