dangerousity, how do you see Pacquiao v. Hatton unfolding?

Styles makes fights, and Pac has the stylistic advantage here. Some guys are gonna argue that Pac doesn't like being pushed back but thats just rubbish. The guys who pushed him back pushed him back at the right time, being predictable constantly coming forward trying to back him up will get you KO'd. I see 3 outcomes ranging from most likely to least.

1) Pac by KO in 10th 70%
Hatton is gonna try some new tricks which he has learned from Mayweather Snr, possibly even try to box...he will be thoroughly outclassed in that department. He will soon go back to doing what he does best, roughhousing and have some success with it. Hatton is stronger than Pac so anytime he does get inside, he will probably get the better of Pac. At the same time though, Pac has enough fire power, enough speed, output and footwork to get himself outside and land the combinations. I think pretty much the whole fight will be like that.

A lot of people will laugh at me for comparing this fight to the Diaz fight but I pictured that fight to go pretty much exactly the way it did. The only difference between this fight and that fight is that unlike Diaz, Hatton will actually get inside, land and hurt Pacquiao...he wont be on the inside all night though and everytime he is on the outside, Pac's combinations will cut him up. Speaking of cuts, as they are the same height, both come forwards and has cut before, 80% chance of a headbutt and cut in this fight.

Ricky will be outclassed for most of the fight, stunned a few times as he gets caught coming in and Pac will try finish him but Ricky will clinch for dear life. By the 6th round after taking so many punches, he will loose a bit of steam and wont work as hard trying to go in, will try again to box from the outside only to get beat up. He wil be completely gassed out by the 9th and running out of options will simply try to run over Pac, he gets KO'd in the 10th.

2) Hatton by KO via left hook! 20%
Always said Hatton has very underrated speed, specially footspeed. I knew he would have success getting inside PBF cos unlike Baldomir, Hatton had the footspeed to jump in. He lost to PBF because PBF beat him at his own game, even on the inside PBF's defense was so good Hatton was tiring himself out and PBF had the stamina to hang with him. Pac's defense on the inside is nowhere near as good as PBF, he will cover up to protect himself such as what RJJ does whilst trying to back up. Hatton will enjoy hitting Pac like a punching bag. I can see a KO by left hook from Hatton, probably to the body on the inside or a leaping one from outside if a tired out Pacman looses focus and gets caught hard.

3) Pac by KO inside 4! 10%
Hatton doesnt have the greatest of chins, and not the greatest of defense. Pac is a wild finisher and if he stuns Hatton just once, and Hatton cant clinch, Pac will rain punches on him and finish him on the spot.

3 is unlikely as I think Pac has too much respect for Hattons power to simply go wild on him. 2 is possible but again unlikely, he will probably have some success but ultimately just not good enough. Go with 1

Im putting down £100 on Pac by KO and extra £30 on round 9/10/11.


Thats my prediction, whats yours?

 

lol thanks mate. Just don't go dumping lots of money on Pac based on that prediction now, and trying to hunt me down if Pac does loose

Hit back when you have a good look at the fight, id be interested to see your view on it!

 

Great prediction and I am inclined to agree. I'm putting 20 bucks on Pacman KO after round 6.

 

Hatton is far from predictable. You watch some of his fights, you watch the Malignaggi fight - his most recent one - and you'll see this. He doesn't come forward in straight lines, he'll move his head, side-step, take a step backwards, drop his shoulder, turn his body when coming inside so that his opponent can't time him.

The only person who was able to time him and constantly catch him coming in was Floyd Mayweather, and this was when Hatton did move in straight lines at times because he became frustrated with his lack of success on the inside.

Regardless, Manny Pacquiao is no Floyd Mayweather, he may not be the one-dimensional fighter he was once, but he certainly isn't a guy who's amazing boxing off the back foot. Hatton's style isn't made for Pacquiao, Manny may have some physical advantages such as handspeed, but in no way does he have a stylistic advantage.

Hatton isn't stupid enough to try and box Pacquiao. He isn't stupid enough to try and box anybody, that's not his game, he's a pressure fighter and he knows it, Floyd Sr knows it. What he will do, like he tried to do a bit more in the Malignaggi fight, is his use his a jab more when trying to work his way inside, which only helps.

Pacman's power and speed is completely irrelevant when on the inside, because he isn't going to be throwing punches. Hatton is a master class on the inside, many people dismiss it as being dirty and that's it, yes he is crude, but he's very skilled and effective on the inside, and this work is largely un-noticed. He'll tie Pacquiao up, work the body where Pacman has proven vulnerable before, and create angles and feint to work openings to land. What matters here is Pacquiao's footwork, which you already mentioned and is pretty good, but most importantly his ring generalmanship. Is Pacquiao experienced enough on the inside against world-class inside fighters to be able to work his way out of Hatton's clutches?

And they are right to laugh at you. Diaz is nothing like Hatton, and barely half the fighter Hatton is. Nothing much more to say on this. Yes Hatton does cut, but that has never changed the outcome of one of his fights.

Don't know what to say on this topic really, seeing as it's just a prediction. Once again though, Hatton won't try and box from the outside. I'm not convinced Pacquiao is good enough to time him off the back foot and catch him coming in, particularly as he won't be coming in straight lines.

Watch the fight again. Mayweather did not beat him at his own game. Mayweather beat him because he's an elite counter-puncher, superb at boxing off the back foot and didn't allow Hatton to get inside, mainly as a result of elbows and referee Joe Cortez. He beat Hatton be catching him as he came in, on the occassion that Hatton came inside in straight lines, it was easy for Mayweather to time him. With Floyd Sr in his corner, and having learnt fom his mistakes in that fight, this won't happen again. Besides, as I said before, Pacquiao isn't going to be able to time Hatton like Mayweather did. I mean can you imagine Pacquiao sticking Hatton with lead counter left hands and check right hooks as he moves inside? Neither can I.

Hatton's chin is fine. He proved that against Tszyu, he takes straight punches fine and Pacquiao's main weapon is the straight left hand. The reason Mayweather finished Hatton is because Hatton was caught coming inside, unprepared and in no position to take Floyd's supremely accurate, quick, crisp, perfectly executed punches. He was caught cold by them. Despite Pacquiao's speed and southpaw stance, Hatton will see Pacquiao's punches coming, as they won't be landing on him while he's coming inside, they'll be landing while his feet are set and he's in defensive mode.

 

I didnt mean his method is predictable, I meant the idea that he will just constantly press Pac is predictable. Guys who showed Pac's weakness in being pressed back, Morales & JMM boxed for the most part, and when they saw an opening, a stunned or imbalanced Pacquiao, they pushed him back. Should they have come forward all night it will be predictable and Pac will play the part, as it was, they kept Pac guessing of when they will press.

I am very impressed with Hatton's ability to close the gap, hence why I KNOW he will get inside and do some damage. I know it will be a tough fight. Pac though like I already said, has enough physical advantages to get out of that mess, he can throw fast powerful flurries on the inside to back his opponents, he is also equally fast on his feet to back off. And yes he has dealt with world class insidefighters, he goes by the name of Barrera, one of the best bodypunches of this decade.

Mayweather did beat him at his own game. Me and my friends and family were all sat in the living room watching the fight live supporting Hatton. I really wanted Hatton to win and at times was really frustrated with how even when he had PBF tied up on the inside, he just couldnt do damage and PBF would even outland him from there. Sure PBF outboxed him from the outside too, thats a given. I gave Hatton atleast 4 rounds in that fight so he was in it but even when he had his way of trying up PBF, end of it all, he was still the one who gassed out first and PBF did more damage.

The Hatton of the Tsyzu fight was special. The Hatton of Tsyzu vs Pac would be 50/50, he was so determined that night. However, we all know Lazcano doesnt hit anywhere near as hard as Kotsya, nor does Collazo and those guys did damage.

I think you are severely underestimating Pac's speed, Hatton will have a hard time seeing those punches coming I assure you. And yes I can imagine Pac sticking Hatton with counter left hand..its no more slower than the counter lead rights he got from PBF...and Pac's right hook has caught just about every elite fighter fighter coming in, MAB, Morales, DLH so I dont see why it wouldnt catch Hatton.

Anyways nothing is certain and Im sure you believe in what you say just as much as I do, lets wait until may 2nd. We'll see whos right :good

 

wow nice predictions from dangerousity

 

Yep... You called it. :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

 

The words of a man who has actually studied the tapes and knows what he's seeing. ^ :thumbsup

 

Whats that suppose to mean? I did call Pac by KO inside 7, I think most people picked Pac by KO. Thats besides the point though, my point is the fight unfold how it should have unfold, Pac the explosive fighter against the brawler trying to get in with Pac popping him from the outside.

Diaz is nothing like Hatton in terms of skill but I knew Pac was gonna look impressive, its a styles thing, you have to outbox Pac to beat him and Hatton isnt outboxing Pac. There is a chance Hatton wins through roughhousing but like I said, unlikely.

We shall see, and im confident enough to wage a lifetime ban bet with you or Tommy/Stitch or if you prefer lifetime avatar bet, whatever. :deal

 

What's that supposed to mean? You said people would laugh - THEY LAUGHED, bud. :rofl

I've already taken lifetime ban bets with people here, and as you can see I'm STILL HERE. You sure you want to go there? I'll make this easy for you - people DO NOT ****ing honor avatar bets or ban bets, so I'm not wasting my time. Besides, this isn't personal for me, bud. I know we're talking about one of your favorites, but this has zero meaning for me. NONE. After Hatton beats Pacquiao he can gorge himself up to 250 lbs. for all I care. You're not talking to a fanboy. NOPE. Do me a favor and don't take a bet with TStitch either, I want you here after this is over so we can examine the outcome. You are at least somewhat technical in your observations compared to most we have here, and I consider that a very good thing.

 

Ok got it

Ive only ever lost one if I recall correctly, that was a 1 month off bet and I did honour that (DLH-PBF if I recall). This is nothing personal to me too, I just know I cant loose as Im very confident in my pick. Even if I did win a lifetime avatar bet, more than likely I will just probably let them wear it for a month or if it is a lifetime ban bet, I wouldnt actually want them gone.

 

The mere mention of handicapped Malignaggi weakens your argument on what Hatton can do against Pac. Malignaggi is no Pac who is now adept with both hands that pack wallop everytime they hit the target. Anyway, except for Tyzu, Hatton and Floyd has not fought a live opponent in the caliber of Pac. I have to agree with Dangerousity that this fight will be like the Diaz fight. The fight may be stopped due to cuts or a KO on Hatton due to accummulation of punches.