Danny Garcia "Mayweather too small for Canelo"

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  1. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    i'm guessing the guys shitting on duran are probably too young to remember and only go by second hand info and youtube clips.
     
  2. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    They started watching boxing after the first HBO 24/7 thats why they are obsessed with Floyd and think hes the best ever,the only thing they know about the fighters of the past is what boxrec tells them, boxrec is a great tool to use but doesnt replace watching the actual fights something these dudes dont bother doing.
     
  3. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Danny Mac is a G. He called that **** proper.
     
  4. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    that...and understanding the landscape at the time.

    back in duran's time...it was unrealistic for a guy from 135 to go all the way up to 147 and beat the champ. that hadn't been done since armstrong. i don't recall any guys attempting it either. what you mainly had was guys like gomez going up one division and getting beaten severely. it was a big deal. there weren't all the titles we have today. there were no interim champs.
     
  5. Sunchild78

    Sunchild78 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Folks just want Floyd to get beat. He fought twice at 154 and won, but it's clear from his performance that he's not at his best at that weight. So why should he continue to fight there if he's aware of that. I do believe if he's defending the 154lb title then he should fight at 154lbs, but if that's not the case, then there's no reason for him to leave a weight where he feels good at to fight anybody at a higher weight. Floyd is the face of boxing, which means everybody who wants a shot should come to him.
     
  6. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Com on son !!! Davey Moore winning the Jr middle wight title was the worse thing he could have done .. He was didn't have the experience too deal with the skill set of duran. Davy more had like 13 fight before facing duran ? Please dude ! Moore was there to get plucked.

    Beating a way past his prime benitez is nothing to brag about ether ..
    Point being Davy was never the same fighter after Duran beat him, and with only 13 fight under his belts , the word is still out if he would have lived up to his expectation
    Barkely beat a really shop worn tommy hearns , before loosing to Barkley Tommy actually lost to James Kitchen but was awarded the win ..
    and Tommy even in his shell of himself was killing Barkley until Barkley landed a hail marry punch while bubbled over from a Hearns left hook to the body.

    Point being Duran was no longer significant after 154 and thats a fact.

    Also did you see what James toney did too barkley .. Against a fighter with true skill barkley was lunch meat. why are you trying to make Barkley more then what he was witch was a face first brawler, he was on the same level as the late Gattie and yet no one will confuse gatti as a great boxer.
     
  7. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    and danny garcia was too big for an old former super bantam weight Erik Morales. he of all people would know, but it didnt stop him :rofl:rofl
     
  8. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    His skill set allow him to do OK against Hagler who showed Duran too much respect .. but out side of that , all he had was the barkley win .
     
  9. Primadonna Kool

    Primadonna Kool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lets stop all these old school heavyweights from facing super-heavyweights, lets stop David Haye & USS from fighting these big guys who out weigh them by stones not afew pounds.

    The weight difference won't be that much between Canelo and Mayweather, its sounds like Canelo is a light heavyweight.

    Mayweather has fought at 154 before, so what's the difference now..? I think the weight difference would be 10 pounds approx, what is the big deal..?

    All these smaller fighters moaning over weight difference.

    "I am glad the heavyweight division has woken up, i am sick of the smaller fighters"...
     
  10. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    for the record...i am a floyd fan. when ppl start making excuses for why he shouldn't fight this guy or that guy...it just looks and sounds bad.

    the reality of the situation is this...

    if floyd had sr in his corner for the cotto fight...he would have stopped cotto.

    floyd can beat canelo.

    at this point...i feel floyd can beat sergio as well.

    do i think those fights will be easy? no. but that's what will make them oustanding.

    it's floyd who says he's the greatest of all time. honestly...as much as i love the dudes style of boxing...i can't agree with him on that. what exactly has he done to be considered the greatest of all time?

    there are plenty of atg fighters who's resumes at 44 fights top floyds.

    ok...so he's a multiple weight division champ....there are plenty of those too.

    ok...so he's been at the top for a long time...easy to do with todays competition.

    if he wants to be considered the best of all time...beating canelo and martinez would set him apart from the rest. it's that simple and it's very realistic.
     
  11. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    at least he had balls to fight guys that were the killers in the division that were title holders. duran was 5 foot 7 former lightweight and fought the 6 foot 1 inch Barkely coming off a spectacular KO of Hearns at middelweight. he never bitched about being not only "smaller" but being dwarfed!
    But the 5 foot 8 Mayeather and 154 pound title holder wont fight the 5 foot 7 154 pound title holder Canelo

    Duran fought the beast at middleweight in Hagler and lost. but at least he tried! fought the 6 foot 3 hearns and lost, but at least he TRIED

    Duran = Legend
    Mayweather = Cherry picker
     
  12. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    True. Plus we had same day weigh ins for a good portion of Duran's career and the title fights were contested in 15 rounds it was a completely different time an harder time to win multiple titles and a tougher time to stay at the top not to mention that the talent pool was much higher than it his today, guys that never won titles in that era would be multiple division champions today, imagine Bad Bennie Briscoe's who didnt manage to win a title back then in todays MW division not only would he be a champion he would destroy anyone in his path.
     
  13. Pimp C

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    All Canelo has on PBF is size and power. If they were the same size no one would even want PBF to fight him they would say he's too green or a waste of time fight for him. That right there tells you everything you need to know about him. Even so PBF whoops that ass even at 154.
     
  14. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    and duran's win over barkley trumps floyds best wins because it was something that had not been done since henry armstrong.
     
  15. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dude get out of here ,, you setting here trying to pump fighter like davy moore and Barkely as though they were some type of world beaters. they were not even close , they just so happen to be in the right place at the right time to win belts .. After beating Tommy 2x and van horn , Barkley didn't beat anyone else of significants and never capture another title.