Danny Garcia on Amir Khan's Speed

"If Garcia had got cut..."

If my Aunty had balls she'd be my Uncle! ;-)

 

Garcia WAS CUT.... over the right eye I think.

 

You seem angry

Do you not like Khan?

 

And if you go back and watch Garcias dads body language in the corner between rounds, it wasn't confident at all

He certainly wasn't going "you've got him now Danny, you've got him where you want him!!!!"

you know, according to half on here, it was all going to plan, the timing was getting there, he was ad******g, all like planned.

Well why was Garcia's old man a nervous wreck in the corner then?

 

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I cant believe that you people are for real seriously, IF Garcia never landed that left, IF Garcia got cut, IF Khan clinched and held IF, IF IF IF.

The fact is Khan got stopped in 4 rounds, there is no ifs or buts about it. Theres no argument he was put down 3 times in the space of 3 minutes and rightly stopped.

People calling Garcia an average boxer have no clue, his all round game is much better than Khan's. I have no doubt in my mind the the outcome of a re-match would end the same although probably later on in the fight.

The ONLY think Khan has over Garcia is speed.

 

For all we know Garcia could turn out to be Khan's Simon Brown. I'd like to see a rematch next year, win or lose I think Khan respects Danny a lot more and makes it a more competitive affair over a longer distance. Though I still think he eventually gets caught with a big counter and stopped again.

 

I thought there was a bit of panic in the corner end of the 2nd and Angel was not as you pointed out looking to confident, he saying something like 'you too wild man, come on man, Danny man lol

 

Darni, not sure this is logically consistent. Using your own explanations...

1) You explain 'if the left did not land in the 3rd' as if the possibility was remote based on the action.

2) Then you try to defend Khan's punch resistance in the context of this fight by explaining Garcia landed multiple punches before the defining one.

So which is true? Was the punch that hurt Khan so improbable and out of the blue or did Khan prove he had relative resistance by taking multiple shots?

If he did take multiple shots how do you reconcile these ideas? That short of the punch in the 3rd round that Khan outboxes him for 8 or 9 rounds and that Garcia's chance is a punchers one, which is something usually associated with a decent puncher landing an unlikely punch to win a fight when in your own analysis you explain he took more punches than one. If you accept that Khan took multiple shots, resulting in a catastrophic one, for me it would follow that Garcia could be said to have outboxed Khan if we consider that outboxing an opponent isn't simply as narrow a definition as stacking up points for a decision/accumulative stoppage but also for getting the better of an opponent in key facets of boxing in a clear cut style.

Ultimately it could just be said the proof was in the pudding, but I like the analytical approach and I'd be curious to know how you explain the inconsistencies between points 1 and 2.

 

One punch can change a fight, Garcia took his PUNCHERS CHANCE, let's see if he can do it again.

I don't think so.

 

Do all the other punches he landed count as a puncher's chance too? It seems he got, and took advantage, of a lot of chances!

 

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What an idiot!

 

Ok make it bit more clearer, based on the results of the first two rounds with the pattern it was setting early on in this fight and I am of course basing my opinion on the pattern which in those two rounds.

Clearly Khan won the first 2 rounds using fast 1 , 2 and even 3 or 4, now based on Garcia style he was never going to out land Khan with his output he likes to pick his shots, the only way he was going to win rounds if he hurts Khan and draws him in slows his work rate to win rounds over him.

He would have to hurt Khan bad to win rounds over him due to his style and footwork, now if Khan is not that bad he can still be in his senses and use his legs to get away like he don't vs Maidana and Peterson in some part, but Garcia is not a pressure fighter therefore his slow feet around the ring won't really help him.

He likes guys coming on to him I think if he has to chase he won't be that effective, he likes to throw with you and time you.

So cut it short Garcia only beats Khan if he KO him badly, if he hurts Khan in a exchange Khan can go on the backfoot and still outbox him.

So based on this its either Garcia stops Khan or Khan keeps winning the rounds.

First 2 rounds it was looking too easy for Khan to land, Garcia land landing some body shots but nothing to claim he won the first 2.

 

Did them punches hurt or change the course of the fight?

 

Khan was winning the first two rounds but he was also getting clipped from the first and when you have a vulnerable chin like Khan's that is always going to be dangerous.

I remember thinking from the first round that Khan was probably winning the rounds but that he would hit the canvas at some point, in a rematch, even if he boxes and moves behind the jab, at some stage Garcia will get more desperate and start to unload on him.

He knows he can hurt Khan so he'll be looking to land the power shots, Khan likes to get involved when he fights and trade so unless he can remain extremely disciplined and steer clear of any bombs for the full 12 rounds it is extremely plausible that Garcia stops him again. If I was Garcia fighting a rematch I would try and get right on Khan's chest like Peterson did and not let him fight at range and rough him up on the inside trying to land hooks and uppercuts.

We've seen Khan beaten before then come back and seem slightly improved and a bit tighter defensively only to fight like an absolute doughnut again when it matters. I don't see why this should be any different this time around, Virgil Hunter has got him too late to change him that much.

 

How many times can a guy **** up?

Khan knows he can't make them mistakes again, if he has any sense he will not fight Garcia the same way, I think that's with or without Hunter factor too.