Danny Green's TKO Victory was a Fluke!!

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  1. RJJ4Life

    RJJ4Life Active Member Full Member

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    Now obviously I'm a die-hard Roy Jones fan. I'm not gonna make any excuses for the man. I personally wish he would've retired after beating Tarver, but he still has a reduced version of the exceptional skills that once mad him the best.

    Danny Green landed a real good punch early. Jones entered the ring with no sweat built up. It was obvious he was looking to outbox Danny and earn a decision. Play it safe to secure the Hopkins rematch.

    IT proved an ill-fated plan because Jones was went into the first round not yet warmed up or in the flow of the fight. He obviously didn't expect Green to come at him so quickly. Nevertheless, what happened, happened. Only Roy knows if the ref should've stopped the fight, but it appeared the ref was right.

    My argument is this: The quick flash TKO win, although legit, does not prove that Jones doesn't have the skills to compete against Hopkins or even Green. 9 out of 10 times Jones would beat Green. He miscalculated, Green landed a lucky shot, and won. If Roy hadn't gotten caught, he would've warmed up, took control of the fight by the 3-4 rounds and cruised to a points win because he's a better boxer than Danny Green.

    It's dangerous to go in there against a guy with only a puncher's chance because, especially when the "boxer" is past his prime and old (40), he can get caught at anytime.

    I know the critics will put more nails in Roy's coffin and bloggers will bash him even more than they do, but I believe with all my heart that Jones Hopkins would still be a great fight!

    I hope they can make it 4 the summer and sell it as Jone's and Hopkin's farewell fight.
     
  2. kwyjibo

    kwyjibo O RLY? banned Full Member

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    I don't want to appear as a complete ass, but I saw your thread title, clicked it, saw your avatar and failed to read the post. Danny Green won legitimately and the stoppage was fair.
     
  3. RJJ4Life

    RJJ4Life Active Member Full Member

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    Next time read the post...if you can read? I said it was fair and Green deserves the accolades and all that. My point was that the quick flash knock down and subsequent ending is hardly an indication that Green is a better boxer or that Roy's so past it he can't even beat a C-Level fighter like Green.
     
  4. Green has a pretty awesome KO % man. He has a habit of catching opponents with "fluky" right hands.
     
  5. kwyjibo

    kwyjibo O RLY? banned Full Member

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    If they fought again and it happened again, what would you say? A punch is a punch and a TKO is a TKO. How many times has Tyson stopped someone in the first round for example? Especially with his first punch. Nobody says he was flukey. Now I know what you're saying. Tyson is an A and Green is a C. Maybe green is a C because he's been fighting C fighters because thats the only oppurtinity he's had. Maybe he's greater than a C - it's a possibility that nobody knows until he is tested again.
     
  6. left hook 75

    left hook 75 The Big Payback Full Member

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    If that fight wasn't an indication of the decline of a legend then tell me what was it an indication of?
     
  7. 46and0

    46and0 It's irrefutable. Full Member

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    It wasn't a fluke. Green landed the solid shot which decided the bout. It would be a fluke had Green not meant it, but he backed Jones up, saw the opening and threw the right hand.

    Jones still has good skills but it was foolish of him to come into a fight cold and with his left hand dangling against a big puncher, especially with his shaky chin.
     
  8. VIP

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    Everyone knows that even a 40 year old Jones could outbox Green. Green is a strong guy with a big punch. He went in there looking for the KO and he got it...I wouldn't say it was a fluke. Roy is still a better boxer than most but the point is he can't take a punch at this stage, which is why he keeps getting KTFO and he needs that punch resistance to fight at this level.

    Jones-Hopkins would be a better fight because Hopkins is light punching fighter but it's not a credible fight after one guy got destroyed like that.
     
  9. HitBattousai

    HitBattousai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It wasn't a lucky shot. Green set it up by forcing Roy to the corner, then landed once he got him there and Roy doesn't have the punch resistance to take a shot from a solid puncher, which Green is, nor does he have the legs anymore to get away from shots thrown by competent opposition, which Green also is. Hopkins probably doesn't hit as hard as Green, but has faster hands/more accurate punching, so he would have no trouble finding Roy, and it would probably be a systematic beating by B-Hop if the two continue on with their fight. Roy should retire now while he still has his health.
     
  10. RJJ4Life

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    You all make good points. "Fluke" isn't the right word. i apologize. Again, I don't want to take anything away from Green. He took advantage of Roy's mistake and got a great win.

    Styles make fights. Bernard doesn't punch hard, can't handle hand speed well, and has the same decreased stamina has Jones. Therefore, the fight would be very competitive and I think Jones Jr. would win.

    Like Bernard said.. Roy's a legend and deserves the benefit of the doubt. His career shouldn't end in foreign soil, against average competition, and on 1 stupid mistake.

    Either way Forget the critics and us bloggers. Give Bernard and Roy the benefit of the doubt. It's their lives..lives dedicated to boxing. Critics don't know a thing about boxing. They've hated on Roy and now Floyd and prayed for their downfall for years.
     
  11. RJJ4Life

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    Roy has faster hands than Bernard, Bernard has better defense than Roy. The reason I think the fight should go on is because Green did not outclass, or systematically break down Roy. He was given a great opportunity early and landed a good shot and that was it.

    Don't forget the conditions. Roy was fighting in foreign territory (16 hours time difference) for the 1st time ever. For the first time ever he was in hostile territory, making trips back and forth at an advanced age.

    He was moving up a weight class against a guy whose more than comfortable at cruiserweight and who has a heavyweight punch.

    Roy didn't have to fight Green. He could've skipped him and went on to the B-Hop fight, but he kept his word and gave Danny a shot in his homeland among his home crowd at his weight class.

    Amir Khan was knocked out right quick not too long ago by one punch. Now he's champ.
     
  12. fatcity

    fatcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Green shut Jone's mouth and at the same time his incredible ego.Roy's finished.
     
  13. Im honestly concerned for Roy's health at this stage. He's been beat up a fair bit if he keeps going he might end up damaged. But yeah, it's his life. If he's going to fight anybody I guess Hopkins is an OK choice. Much rather see him retire tho. It's sort of like how it was with Tyson - We want to recycle him and relive some of the old magic. But its gone. Have to stick to the video tapes (er, torrents I mean :lol:).
     
  14. HitBattousai

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    Green was a career Super Middleweight who won trinket belts at Light Heavy and Cruiser against low level opposition. Roy fought him because it looked like an easy fight on paper given that Green had been badly outboxed by Anthony Mundine, Green wasn't a true Cruiserweight, and Australia was willing to put up a lot of money to host the fight. However, Green can punch, is pretty tough, has ok skills, and was bigger than Roy. No question Roy's the better boxer, but that doesn't matter since he doesn't have his legs or punch resistance anymore to get away from decent competition. He wouldn't have been able to stay away from Green. Hopkins would give him a prolonged beatdown. Doesn't mean anything, in his prime obviously Roy would have schooled Green, and was just too fast for B-Hop prime for prime, but that's not the case now. He should retire.

    And Amir Khan is now champ because of very careful matchmaking. The only time he faced an actual puncher he was stopped in one round. Not a surprise that he hasn't faced one since, or that he fought the worst of the 140 champions.
     
  15. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jones is past it & chinny. Tarver, Johnson & now Green have proved that.