Danny "Swift" Garcia will continue to avoid the likes of Thurman, Brook & Porter.

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  1. ryuken87

    ryuken87 Active Member Full Member

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    Yep really. In this day and age when the best rarely fight the best, I would say few fighters have done as well as Garcia. Which current LWW or WW fighters have a better resume since 2012? Pacquiao and Bradley maybe?

    For the record I think he lost to Herrera too (and I'd have to watch the Peterson fight again) and hasn't looked *that* impressive lately, but for a guy who is only 27 that is a very good list of names.
     
  2. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    He just had his 2nd fight at 147, which was a step up from the last one. He's ordered to face Khan next and the winner of Thurman-Porter is being teased. You guys need to chill out with this "ducking" garbage, jesus christ.

    Exactly! He's far more accomplished than they are. They should be chasing him, the thread should read "Will Thurman/Porter/etc continue to avoid Danny!?" lol
     
  3. theword

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    Nope, not his lawyer (although that wouldn't be so bad... 5% of million dollar paydays twice a year is a good start). Just a guy that thinks:

    1) all of these elite level fighters are probably difficult and diva-ish to work with -- that includes Brook/Thurman/Pac/May/Porter

    1a) because they all have options and can make fights on or close to their own terms and they probably ***** and moan about having to concede terms with another fighter on their level.

    2) I also believe that a fighter calling out another fighter means exactly f@ck all. If they were serious about a fight getting made they'd probably ask their reps to contact the other fighters reps and see if they can't hammer out a deal away from the cameras. Calling people out doesn't seem to work all that often in boxing. The work to get a fight done (at least I guess) is done between two lawyers that negotiate terms on behalf of the fighter. It takes nothing and costs nothing to look at Eli Sechbach's iphone and say, "Move up the 47 and fight me!" and have it posted to youtube.

    In the end I like Garcia as a fighter, I think he tries hard and is usually entertaining. But it doesn't bother me if he picks bad matchups because -- and this is the important part -- there's always other fights to watch!
     
  4. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    I doubt Danny will opt not to fight one of the champs or a serious contender before the end of 2016….

    Garcia isn't the type of fighter to back down from a good challenge to disprove his naysayers. That being said I'm not sure how confident his stable and his management is? I think a lot fans tend to lump Danny in with his circle of trustees if you look at his body of work and his fortitude as a fighter in general he's a throw back kinda guy resourceful, strong, determined, fundamentally sound etc, etc. Most would agree nothing special but you know he comes to fight and if your going to beat him your going to have to out hustle out box and out will him.

    He's got a shot against anyone in the 147lbs division but there's no doubt guys like Thurman, Brook, Spence, Bradely have a bit more natural talent or the preverbal equalizer that Danny doesn't blatantly have thus the reason why everyone would have him as the underdog and its perfectly conceivable. Just don't count the kid out, trust me he'll make it a good s****.
     
  5. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    Add spence and Vasquez to the list
     
  6. rathalos

    rathalos Active Member Full Member

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    i believe algieri would outbox him :yep
     
  7. Out The Cage

    Out The Cage Beast Full Member

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    C'mon now, that's a bit harsh.

    You guys are completely missing the point of this thread. I'm not questioning who he fought but when he fought them. Holt, Morales, Judah, Malignaggi & Guerrero were all passed it. You guys are coming across as boxrec warriors to me.

    But that isn't the case and you know it. Porter & Thurman have called him out and Garcia opted for the easier fight with Guerrero. Haymon will continue to give him options for every fight so don't hold your breath for a Garcia-Thurman fight anytime soon.

    Cool, I just wish you'd think more often before you lay your points across.

    SMH. Porter and Kenny were ready to concede to all of Garcia's demands. They've stated in numerous interviews that they couldn't care less about the money. It's not all about the money for certain fighters. This was around the time Garcia just finished fighting Malignaggi. Again, stop fishing for excuses.

    Team Porter tried negotiating through Al but Garcia decided to go in a different direction. DO YOUR RESEARCH!

    If he does fight one of them before the end of the year, I will send you 500$ via paypal. My word is my bond.

    Garcia is a quality fighter but it's time he takes control of his own career. The promoter works for the fighter, not the other way around.

    I think he'd fight Vasquez, not sure about Spence though.

    Algieri has a chance as long as he's out the cage early in the fight. :bbb
     
  8. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    I think they will fight, soon. I wouldn't want Garcia to move up and face them immediately. Late 2016 or early 2017 is cool with me.
     
  9. Out The Cage

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    Why wait until 2017? Garcia already got himself acclimated to his new weight class. Why can't he fight Porter or Thurman next? The best are supposed to fight the best. That's what boxing is all about.
     
  10. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Garcia would be all wrong for Algieri. Guerrero has a chin and can take a beating. Algieri only made it through the PAC fight because PAC eased up after the last knockdown. Danny wouldn't hold back on Algieri .
     
  11. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    1. I did say late 2016 also.... Thurman and Porter are tied up for March. Danny MIGHT have a date with Khan in June. So under that assumption, that leaves October or later.
    2. The time period I listed has nothing to do with Danny's acclimation to the weight, he's already fight there twice. Once against a fast opponent, and another against a durable, somewhat heavy puncher.

    It is about fighting the best, that's why I said I want them to fight. It's about patience and buildup also. Good promotion goes a long way, even for us. Besides, it's not like either of these three, or four, will be shot or past prime in a year.
     
  12. theword

    theword Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Is that true? Is there a credible source for this info? I'd like to read it. I literally have no problem being wrong on this score as it makes no difference to me one way or the other.
     
  13. Out The Cage

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    I just don't believe Garcia will fight any of the names I mentioned until late 2017/early 2018. And when he does fight them, he'll most likely target the weakest link of the bunch first.

    Go to youtube search bar and type: Ken Porter: Danny Garcia and His Dad Really Don't Want The Fight. It's the first video on the page, skip to the 3:15 mark.

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  14. theword

    theword Well-Known Member Full Member

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    conversely at on this video (from the same youtube channel) at 1:45 mark Angel says that he wasn't made aware of any conversation between the Porter's and Al Haymon.

    So what we have is a "he said, she said" type situation and unless Al Haymon himself weighs in (doubtful) then we might never know who's telling the truth.
     
  15. Out The Cage

    Out The Cage Beast Full Member

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    Lmao. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what's really going on here. Garcia don't want none of "Showtime" Shawn Porter. :deal